What would it take ?

comment by The Post Nearly Man. 20times, 20legend (U1270)
posted 13 minutes ago
How long are we're going to give Poch if things don't click straight away? Six months? A season?

Might as well put them on rolling monthly contracts and let Ed pick the team.
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Some will give him less than that.

They are putting a lot of faith in a manager who has won nothing and was dumped out of Europe by the mighty Gent and Fiorentina.

It's almost as if they are picking which bits of history to remember

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago

It would remove the 'well that'll do' vibe that's around at present.

Stretty was wrong on a lot of things in the past but hindsight showed us that he wasn't wrong in how we've just accepted a drop in standards.

In an ideal world it would be Ole leading us to these high standards.
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I don't really get this part, tbh.

Who exactly is accepting this "drop in standards" that can do anything about it?

Unless every ST holder tears their ticket up every time we have a bad run, what more can be done? Twitter is awash with people screaming for Ole to be sacked... this that and the other player to quit etc. It's not like every defeat is peacefully accepted because it is Ole.
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When I say 'we' I mean we as in the club. The club should always aspire to win titles. The drop in standards I mention is across the whole club from board to players via the manager.

I'm not going to go on Twitter calling for Ole to be sacked and kicking up a stink as I hope he can still do great things for us. I am trying to be realistic though. I don't think he will.

comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago

It would remove the 'well that'll do' vibe that's around at present.

Stretty was wrong on a lot of things in the past but hindsight showed us that he wasn't wrong in how we've just accepted a drop in standards.

In an ideal world it would be Ole leading us to these high standards.
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I don't really get this part, tbh.

Who exactly is accepting this "drop in standards" that can do anything about it?

Unless every ST holder tears their ticket up every time we have a bad run, what more can be done? Twitter is awash with people screaming for Ole to be sacked... this that and the other player to quit etc. It's not like every defeat is peacefully accepted because it is Ole.
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Those that think Ole is good enough to manage United

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago

It would remove the 'well that'll do' vibe that's around at present.

Stretty was wrong on a lot of things in the past but hindsight showed us that he wasn't wrong in how we've just accepted a drop in standards.

In an ideal world it would be Ole leading us to these high standards.
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I don't really get this part, tbh.

Who exactly is accepting this "drop in standards" that can do anything about it?

Unless every ST holder tears their ticket up every time we have a bad run, what more can be done? Twitter is awash with people screaming for Ole to be sacked... this that and the other player to quit etc. It's not like every defeat is peacefully accepted because it is Ole.
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Those that think Ole is good enough to manage United
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He's asking what difference that makes though. Things aren't suddenly going to improve because more fans decide they want a "better" manager than Solskjaer.

https://bit.ly/3gqIG48

comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago

It would remove the 'well that'll do' vibe that's around at present.

Stretty was wrong on a lot of things in the past but hindsight showed us that he wasn't wrong in how we've just accepted a drop in standards.

In an ideal world it would be Ole leading us to these high standards.
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I don't really get this part, tbh.

Who exactly is accepting this "drop in standards" that can do anything about it?

Unless every ST holder tears their ticket up every time we have a bad run, what more can be done? Twitter is awash with people screaming for Ole to be sacked... this that and the other player to quit etc. It's not like every defeat is peacefully accepted because it is Ole.
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When I say 'we' I mean we as in the club. The club should always aspire to win titles. The drop in standards I mention is across the whole club from board to players via the manager.

I'm not going to go on Twitter calling for Ole to be sacked and kicking up a stink as I hope he can still do great things for us. I am trying to be realistic though. I don't think he will.
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Very good post

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole should remain as United manager for another two full seasons, even if he misses top 4. It took years to work under Fergie, you can't just expect instant success.
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Why just 2 more ?
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Because that would be more than enough to say goodbye if he doesn't win the title.
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Do you really believe Ole will take us from where we are currently, to winning a title within 2 more seasons?
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Yes I do. He's already won 2 league titles as a manager, but people pretend he hasn't.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - A Beekers Dozen (U2958)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 4 minutes ago

It would remove the 'well that'll do' vibe that's around at present.

Stretty was wrong on a lot of things in the past but hindsight showed us that he wasn't wrong in how we've just accepted a drop in standards.

In an ideal world it would be Ole leading us to these high standards.
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I don't really get this part, tbh.

Who exactly is accepting this "drop in standards" that can do anything about it?

Unless every ST holder tears their ticket up every time we have a bad run, what more can be done? Twitter is awash with people screaming for Ole to be sacked... this that and the other player to quit etc. It's not like every defeat is peacefully accepted because it is Ole.
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Those that think Ole is good enough to manage United
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He's asking what difference that makes though. Things aren't suddenly going to improve because more fans decide they want a "better" manager than Solskjaer.
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So if viewing figures, Internet hits, merch sales went down significantly, and fans protested (when possible) you don't think thr club would take notice?

Fans can have an influence.

comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole should remain as United manager for another two full seasons, even if he misses top 4. It took years to work under Fergie, you can't just expect instant success.
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Why just 2 more ?
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Because that would be more than enough to say goodbye if he doesn't win the title.
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Do you really believe Ole will take us from where we are currently, to winning a title within 2 more seasons?
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Yes I do. He's already won 2 league titles as a manager, but people pretend he hasn't.
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Not in England though, where he has to contend with far better opposition.

comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Andrew Cole (U22481)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Wahl Icht ; (U22469)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by HoughOffEnd-er (U22510)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ole should remain as United manager for another two full seasons, even if he misses top 4. It took years to work under Fergie, you can't just expect instant success.
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Why just 2 more ?
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Because that would be more than enough to say goodbye if he doesn't win the title.
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Do you really believe Ole will take us from where we are currently, to winning a title within 2 more seasons?
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Yes I do. He's already won 2 league titles as a manager, but people pretend he hasn't.
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Not in England though, where he has to contend with far better opposition.
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It's difficult to win any league. The conditions of the game in Norway are far more difficult than in England in terms of climate. Ole is a PL winning standard of manager, he just needs time.