Saliba

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 17 minutes ago
Endless comments. Who is going to read that ffs?
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Just read it all, started off quite well for the first 3-4 pages. By the end I had to check what the OP was again

comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 15 minutes ago
Endless comments. Who is going to read that ffs?
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Gt it's called discussing a point that is not only to do with just way the player was recruited, treated, and being coached, but also leading to a more general discussion about the absolutely ridiculous way the club is being run.

I mean, yeah sure, 200+ comments about a player none of us have seen play in an Arsenal shirt? Sure, sign me up for that article right now!

But when he wasn't on loan he wasn't #2. How is he meant to get a breakthrough when he is either on loan (often as a #2) or down the pecking order?


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What we know of Wenger's style of doing things, suggests he'd quite happily keep a young goalie he wasn't quite set on for his current 1st 11 but not yet ruling him out of contention entirely. for years
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What keeper who he fancied did Wenger keep for years without giving them a chance? Szczesny, Fabianski and Mannone all got games at a young age. Literally the only keeper you can force that claim on is Emi, and you can only do that by twisting the truth a lot.

Keepers aren't dependent on the formation in front of them, unless the formation is so defensive because the manager doesn't trust the keeper. If Emi can only play with a 3 man defence then he is facking useless (he is playing with a 4 at Villa though, showing your theory is ridiculous).

Keepers aren't dependent on the formation in front of them, unless the formation is so defensive because the manager doesn't trust the keeper. If Emi can only play with a 3 man defence then he is facking useless (he is playing with a 4 at Villa though, showing your theory is ridiculous).
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So what, now a keepr can't learn to do something new/better? FFS DJ that's exactly what player development is, The way Wenger was, we know he had that sort of patience for a player he had faith in. Refusal to just sell Emi is a reflection of Wenger's faith in his ability to become what he has. Not proof he though him crap and just wanted to sell him

I give up with you now anyway. You're just in one of those obtuse moods where you're arguing for the sake of it. You know as well as I do that AW had that kind of long term faith in his youngsters. And that alone is enough to explain Emi's situation. Like everything else you just want to somehow make it Wenger's fault to run interference for the owner.

Imagine criticising Wenger keeping and loaning Emi all that time, given the keeper he's become 3 years afrter Wenger left. Emi's ultimate development has clearly proved Wenger right there. Emery obviously thought he was worth hanging on to as well because he never sold him either did he.

Imagine criticising Wenger keeping and loaning Emi all that time, given the keeper he's become 3 years afrter Wenger left. Emi's ultimate development has clearly proved Wenger right there. Emery obviously thought he was worth hanging on to as well because he never sold him either did he.
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Yes, imagine seeing what a good keeper Emi is (and I saw it long ago) and not criticising Wenger for never giving a chance as a #2 never mind a run as first choice, and instead keep faith in Ospina as #2, and buy a past it Cech instead of developing Emi into the team.

Emery saw what was being ignored and made him #2, playing him in cup games, and facilitating his breakthrough. Wenger would have done what he had all along and signed another keeper above him as #2.

'Imagine criticising Wenger keeping and loaning Emi all that time, given the keeper he's become 3 years afrter Wenger left.'

A keeper never trusted by a manager, who only made his breakthrough at the club after said manager had left, after having been trusted by the next two guys in charge there, yet the credit for the player he has now become through the responsibility of actually playing first team football should really go to the guy that never trusted him enough to ever give him a go.

This guy's logic is facking amazing

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
Imagine criticising Wenger keeping and loaning Emi all that time, given the keeper he's become 3 years afrter Wenger left. Emi's ultimate development has clearly proved Wenger right there. Emery obviously thought he was worth hanging on to as well because he never sold him either did he.
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Yes, imagine seeing what a good keeper Emi is (and I saw it long ago) and not criticising Wenger for never giving a chance as a #2 never mind a run as first choice, and instead keep faith in Ospina as #2, and buy a past it Cech instead of developing Emi into the team.

Emery saw what was being ignored and made him #2, playing him in cup games, and facilitating his breakthrough. Wenger would have done what he had all along and signed another keeper above him as #2.
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You think.

My point is that Wenger could have sold him plenty of times and since he wasn't exactly renowned for holding out for good money on players, the fact he didn't suggests he was always keeping him to be integrated into the 1st team at some point. Or he'd have just gotten shot now wouldn't he.

he wasn't exactly renowned for holding out for good money on players,
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There was never any good money on offer for him.

Reports from France suggesting Saliba is heading to Nice for the remaining of the season.
No option to buy.... fortunately (I guess )

comment by Lexington 125.2 - Give Reiss A Chance (U8879)
posted 1 day, 11 hours ago
'Imagine criticising Wenger keeping and loaning Emi all that time, given the keeper he's become 3 years afrter Wenger left.'

A keeper never trusted by a manager, who only made his breakthrough at the club after said manager had left, after having been trusted by the next two guys in charge there, yet the credit for the player he has now become through the responsibility of actually playing first team football should really go to the guy that never trusted him enough to ever give him a go.

This guy's logic is facking amazing
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Embarrassing