New contract for Bailly

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 49 minutes ago
I guess one thing you could say for the sake of balance is that many of us were saying the same about Luke Shaw last summer. Perhaps the medical data was telling our team that there was no reason Shaw would be more susceptible to injury than other players, and I guess it's just possible that there's data to suggest the same about Bailly going forward.

(Off in search of a piece of wood to knock on.)
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Excluding the season where he was out with the leg break, as that kind of injury can happen to anyone and isn't indicative of general injury/fitness records, Shaw has averaged 21 games per season in the PL - nearly twice as much as Bailly, and he's a couple of years younger, too. I've excluded his Southampton games here (but see below!).

And if we take the last three years (including this one), as being maybe more relevant given we'd hope injury issues would improve over time, Shaw's PL appearances read:

29
24
29 (so far)

and Bailly's:

12
4
8 (so far)

What I'd also add here is that Shaw had two seasons with Southampton under his belt where he'd made 25 & 35 PL appearances, respectively. Bailly hit 25 La Liga appearances before signing for United, but hadn't hit 20 league games in a season until fully four seasons prior for Espanyol B's.

One of the things I think our recruitment under Ole's tenure has really improved upon is by signing players with very good injury records. Maguire, AWB, Bruno, VdB, James and maybe to a lesser extent, Telles, are all players who are rarely injured. Cavani is the exception to the rule but on a free transfer and with a bit of a last throw of the dice about the signing itself, I think we can forgive that one.

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 49 minutes ago
I guess one thing you could say for the sake of balance is that many of us were saying the same about Luke Shaw last summer. Perhaps the medical data was telling our team that there was no reason Shaw would be more susceptible to injury than other players, and I guess it's just possible that there's data to suggest the same about Bailly going forward.

(Off in search of a piece of wood to knock on.)
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Excluding the season where he was out with the leg break, as that kind of injury can happen to anyone and isn't indicative of general injury/fitness records, Shaw has averaged 21 games per season in the PL - nearly twice as much as Bailly, and he's a couple of years younger, too. I've excluded his Southampton games here (but see below!).

And if we take the last three years (including this one), as being maybe more relevant given we'd hope injury issues would improve over time, Shaw's PL appearances read:

29
24
29 (so far)

and Bailly's:

12
4
8 (so far)

What I'd also add here is that Shaw had two seasons with Southampton under his belt where he'd made 25 & 35 PL appearances, respectively. Bailly hit 25 La Liga appearances before signing for United, but hadn't hit 20 league games in a season until fully four seasons prior for Espanyol B's.

One of the things I think our recruitment under Ole's tenure has really improved upon is by signing players with very good injury records. Maguire, AWB, Bruno, VdB, James and maybe to a lesser extent, Telles, are all players who are rarely injured. Cavani is the exception to the rule but on a free transfer and with a bit of a last throw of the dice about the signing itself, I think we can forgive that one.
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My Gran is fit enough to cover VDB's role within the team tbf.

I'm sure she is! But Beekers' fitness record for Ajax was very very good and he's been available for selection for us pretty much all season.

He’s officially signed

https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/eric-bailly-discusses-new-long-term-contract-with-man-utd-26-april-2021

Suppose we have to just hope his injuries clear up, I'm not hopeful to be honest. Do we increase players wages when they sign these types of new contracts, would hope not in cases like this. Who else would be willing to offer more when they've been injured so long?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
This will be a good guideline as to if the new set up is going to work or if it is going to be business as usual.
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No it won't

comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
This will be a good guideline as to if the new set up is going to work or if it is going to be business as usual.
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No it won't
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Why won't it?

comment by The Post Nearly Man. Fckthglzrs. (U1270)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
This will be a good guideline as to if the new set up is going to work or if it is going to be business as usual.
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No it won't
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Why won't it?
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For once I would be morbidly curious as to RDD’s opinion here.

Just kidding. Shut up RDD.

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Fckthglzrs. (U1270)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by The Mur Man (U22601)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 hours, 18 minutes ago
This will be a good guideline as to if the new set up is going to work or if it is going to be business as usual.
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No it won't
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Why won't it?
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For once I would be morbidly curious as to RDD’s opinion here.

Just kidding. Shut up RDD.

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Have you seen his latest article, VC? It's kind of your question paraphrased. The question he answered with 'No it won't'

New recruitment set up
by The Mur Man (U22601)26 April 2021

So, with the news of Bailly signing his new contract, there have been a couple of groans about the new recruitment team making the same questionable decisions as the previous lot.

So, what sort of business do they need to do this Summer to satisfy you there has been an improvement/ change of approach?

He really is an idiot. He in admittedly confessed to being RDD again the other day.