(apologies for rehashing this and of course if you wish to ignore this rant I quite understand but I hadn’t seen that interview, it made me furious, I was under the impression that they couldn’t come to an agreement - not that no contract was offered at all).
I would simply not have believed that this was possible.👀
Wenger/Gazidis were a truly horrible combination…😡
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1fs4E85Voo
I am shocked, I somehow missed this, what a pair of clowns they truly were. 🙄
David Dein really was SO important. 😐
Van Persie was NOT offered a new contract 😳
posted on 15/5/21
Ramsey wasn't as talented as Fabregas. Yes he was loyal but it was during a period when we were average and underachieving, wouldn't put him anywhere near those list of legends personally.
posted on 15/5/21
RVP told the club that he wanted to leave and wouldn't sign a new deal so that's why we didn't offer him a new contract.
posted on 15/5/21
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Ramsey wasn't as talented as Fabregas. Yes he was loyal but it was during a period when we were average and underachieving, wouldn't put him anywhere near those list of legends personally.
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Nobody was as good as Fabregas in that role, it’s true that the team was set up for him to play that role but he was extraordinary - I don’t think he was ever again as good or influential on any team when he left.
posted on 15/5/21
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Ramsey wasn't as talented as Fabregas. Yes he was loyal but it was during a period when we were average and underachieving, wouldn't put him anywhere near those list of legends personally.
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Nobody was as good as Fabregas in that role, it’s true that the team was set up for him to play that role but he was extraordinary - I don’t think he was ever again as good or influential on any team when he left.
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Ramsey was nowhere near as good as Fabregas. But he was as talented.
posted on 15/5/21
The most sickening part was that there was a clause in the transfer which meant Man Utd paid us an extra fee in the region of £5m if they won the Premier League with RVP.
Giving your biggest modern rivals your best player and star striker to enable them to win the PL by giving them the one missing ingredient they needed. That is unforgivable.
posted on 15/5/21
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 16 minutes ago
The most sickening part was that there was a clause in the transfer which meant Man Utd paid us an extra fee in the region of £5m if they won the Premier League with RVP.
Giving your biggest modern rivals your best player and star striker to enable them to win the PL by giving them the one missing ingredient they needed. That is unforgivable.
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+1
There is no way red nose would have done the deal if it had been the other way round. Call it nous or common sense or whatever - the hapless Wenger never had it...
posted on 15/5/21
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class - IDHT2EU (U12019)
posted 16 minutes ago
The most sickening part was that there was a clause in the transfer which meant Man Utd paid us an extra fee in the region of £5m if they won the Premier League with RVP.
Giving your biggest modern rivals your best player and star striker to enable them to win the PL by giving them the one missing ingredient they needed. That is unforgivable.
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+1
There is no way red nose would have done the deal if it had been the other way round. Call it nous or common sense or whatever - the hapless Wenger never had it...
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Exactly. As much as I love Wenger I was ready for him to go a decade before he did, that is not an exaggeration, I saw the signs right from the very beginning and knew it would only get worse and end in a bit of a sad manner with large portions of the fanbase. In fact, it may have even been earlier like 11/12 years but I would need to look back on the seasons and refresh my memory.
He really got very soft in the end when he lost his mojo, a younger Wenger would not have allowed RVP to leave like that I'm sure. It was like after all the tension and rivalry with Ferguson down the years he wanted to give him a 'thank-you for the memories' present for his final season and that was RVP.
posted on 15/5/21
Regardless of all that and RVP leaving he is in my top 5 favourite ever Arsenal players. I just can't hold it against him, he was right to tell Wenger and the club they needed to sign better players to win the league/CL (as we all know), at least he had the balls to and he was our best player himself, fair enough.
We should have done everything to keep him.
Pleased I saw him play live for Arsenal a few times, scored a cracking header at Elland Road in the FA Cup.
posted on 16/5/21
comment by Girøulski Alt-0216 forever (U14971)
posted 20 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by ItsAboutTheBackFour (U9916)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 18 minutes ago
Ramsey wasn't as talented as Fabregas. Yes he was loyal but it was during a period when we were average and underachieving, wouldn't put him anywhere near those list of legends personally.
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Nobody was as good as Fabregas in that role, it’s true that the team was set up for him to play that role but he was extraordinary - I don’t think he was ever again as good or influential on any team when he left.
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Ramsey was nowhere near as good as Fabregas. But he was as talented.
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If the rumours are to believed Ramsey may be on his way back 🥴🥴
posted on 16/5/21
People keep saying SAF needed RVP to win the league but he could have won it without him.