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Away you goal

Personally I am delighted to learn that the away goal rule in European Club Competition is close to being scrapped.

I think at the time it was introduced it was probably merited, but I believe football has evolved and ironically I think the rule now causes teams to be too cautious.

posted on 29/5/21

comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
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comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
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comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 16 minutes ago
I don't think removing it will have any impact on the way teams set out. More often than not, the underdog will be incredibly cautious for the 180 minutes anyway and often with away goals, the home team is afraid of conceding.

However, at least it means that if two teams finish level, one won't progress without anything actually splitting the teams
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Well yeah...its hard to make a good argument that beating a team 3 1 away from home is better than beating a team 2 0 away from home.

At least penalties are a teat of skill, courage and mental strength.
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It's a pretty easy argument to make. Scoring 3 away from home is harder than scoring 1 at home and 2 away.
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Well in this scenario, the team that scored 3 away wouldn't have scored any at home. So not that much easier, huh?
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But would also have only conceded 2 at home. 3 - 1 is always considered a better result than 2 - 0. Even in league football having a higher number of goals scored is better.

posted on 29/5/21

"3-1 is always considered a better score than 2-0." No it isn't 🤣. The only reason it ever would be is because of the daft and illogical away goals rule. The point is that over 180 minutes you haven't scored more

posted on 29/5/21

There’s been about a billion well written articles proving why the away goal rule is so brilliant and why you are so painfully wrong.

posted on 29/5/21

comment by welshpoolfan (U7693)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 16 minutes ago
I don't think removing it will have any impact on the way teams set out. More often than not, the underdog will be incredibly cautious for the 180 minutes anyway and often with away goals, the home team is afraid of conceding.

However, at least it means that if two teams finish level, one won't progress without anything actually splitting the teams
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Well yeah...its hard to make a good argument that beating a team 3 1 away from home is better than beating a team 2 0 away from home.

At least penalties are a teat of skill, courage and mental strength.
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It's a pretty easy argument to make. Scoring 3 away from home is harder than scoring 1 at home and 2 away.
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So you are saying a team that wins 2 away but loses 3 1 at home is obviously the inferior side?

posted on 29/5/21

comment by Edinspur - voted Spurs poster of the year 20-21 (U1109)
posted 19 minutes ago
There’s been about a billion well written articles proving why the away goal rule is so brilliant and why you are so painfully wrong.
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links please. i want them all.
seriously i think a goal is a goal and the away goal rules never made the game any better.

posted on 29/5/21

comment by Edinspur - voted Spurs poster of the year 20-2... (U1109)
posted 26 minutes ago
There’s been about a billion well written articles proving why the away goal rule is so brilliant and why you are so painfully wrong.
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Well what a intellectual post

posted on 29/5/21

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Edinspur - voted Spurs poster of the year 20-21 (U1109)
posted 19 minutes ago
There’s been about a billion well written articles proving why the away goal rule is so brilliant and why you are so painfully wrong.
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links please. i want them all.
seriously i think a goal is a goal and the away goal rules never made the game any better.
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I think when it was brought in it may well have been needed at the time. The evidence now suggests to me at least that it is no longer a good idea. Could well be wrong on that,but that isny feeling.

posted on 29/5/21

comment by merrysupersteve (monitoring the situation) (U1132)
posted 5 hours, 42 minutes ago
"3-1 is always considered a better score than 2-0." No it isn't 🤣. The only reason it ever would be is because of the daft and illogical away goals rule. The point is that over 180 minutes you haven't scored more
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Yes it is. Please check how the PL prioritises teams level in points. A team winning 3 - 1 would be above a team winning 2 - 0 if points were the same, despite having the same goal difference. Football has decided that scoring goals is more valued than not conceding.

posted on 29/5/21

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
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comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
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comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
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comment by JustCallMeTed (U21528)
posted 3 hours, 47 minutes ago
I think at the time it was introduced it was probably merited, but I believe football has evolved and ironically I think the rule now causes teams to be too cautious.
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This is patently wrong.
The away goal rule was introduced BECAUSE teams were playing too cautiously away from home.
Games got very boring because away teams simply parked the bus.
The away goals rule opened games up and made them worth watching.
Football tactics evolved because of that rule.
Football needs that rule!

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I know why it was brought in, but football has evved since then. Many more teams are very skilled at counter attack football now and that has led to home teams being too cautious. I believe we will see more goals if they scrap the rule.

It is also a flawed rule in that it gives unfair advantage to the team playing away in the 2nd leg icthe tie goes to ET.

The scenarios created by the away goal rule are also unnatural at times.

For example a team draws 1 1 away from home and there scores first in the home 2 nd leg. There is actually no change to the dynamic of the match.
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There is no advantage either way.
What you are saying would apply in an y match where the team that scores the first goal then parks the bus.
There are always imponderables in football, but they can happen to either side.
What is critical is that the away goals rule saved football from the monotony of defensive tactics.

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At the time it did do that,that is why I said it was merited. Now I belive the opposite happens. For example the home team objective becomes not to concede. This has become an evolving trend,even more so if the home team scores first.

I think we will see teams play more naturally if this unnatural rule is removed.
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You might well think that......but teams will probably go back to the good old park the bus again.
Football reall has not "evolved" very much. It simply goes through cycles.
The away rule stops one horrible cycle from happening again.

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You could be right, just have no certainty that scrapping the rule will work out,I just feel like it will.
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Well, if they do scrap the rule....it won't be long before we all find out if "park the bus" reappears.

posted on 30/5/21

From Tottenham Hotspur News......
by Dustin George-Miller......

"Personally, I love the away goals rule and don’t think it needs to be tinkered with or removed. It’s one of those artifacts from an earlier time that I think still has relevance and I’m a little bit ticked that removing it will probably mean bigger teams will be that much more insulated from upsets."

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