Rio has managed to bag an interview with Donny.
He seems like a good honest lad and comes off better speaking for him self rather than through his agent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3hg5SUZCNQ
He says he grew up playing as a 6 and can still play there… Ole ffs just please play him. This McFred partnership is breaking me.
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Donny van de Beek on whether he can play as a No.6: “Yes, yes. I like to play at 8 or 6, it’s fine. They know me because in Ajax I was playing number 10 a lot - but yeah, I can also play as a number 8 or 6."
Donny van de Beek: “I think I can [play as a deep lying playmaker]. But of course I don’t know what the manager thinks and what he expects from me but I’ve played in this role before in Ajax. I think I can play in this role as well."
Donny van de Beek on #mufc’s new signings: “To train with them, to play, everything - that’s what we need, winners. I’m really positive about us this season, I think we can make big steps now."
Donny van de Beek: “I think you can never promise a player whether he can play or not, I think I am in agreement that I have to play more. You can train everyday hard, but in the end you need game-time to show your best shape. That’s really important."
Donny van de Beek: “I think I need to trust him. If he doesn’t need me, I think he would let me go. So I think he has plans with me, I just need to work hard and I hope I can show one day to the people what I can [do]."
Donny Interview
posted on 6/9/21
My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets
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The game in Istanbul had everything to do with the team sheet.
It was a massive mistake from the manager. I said it then.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 13 minutes ago
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And he's played a fair amount of minutes as a young squad player who has just been brought in from a far less intense league.
Bruno has come up for us so many times late on, I trust him to have a moment of magic on the last ten minutes more than I do Donny as well. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I can see why you would keep your game changers on in a game like that. The players failed more than night than Ole did, though he wasn't faultless by any stretch.
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Well he hasn't played enough, which is why he lost his match sharpness, and then people accuse him of not being good enough.
Why would you take Bruno off? The common sense thing to do would have been to take a defensive player off as they were parking the bus.
I don't know what you expect the players to do when the management goes into a cup final without a plan b, and have no clue how to tweak things to gain an advantage.
posted on 6/9/21
For all Ole's supposed great man management, he poorly handled VDB's situation and also Lingard. Both are very capable squad options if used properly, but when you favour Matic - a player that often gets caught napping, and a half fit Sancho instead of players who are fit and ready to prove a point, it shows the reason has nothing to do with football. It is Ironic that for all the improvement he made, Ole himself could the one holding us back not to reach to the next level.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
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comment by Ron (U1646)
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comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?
Losing away to Istanbul.
Who started in that game?
Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
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Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?
I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.
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Which holes were those then? The ones that that led to us winning feck all?
How you can correlate the Istanbul loss to Donny starting, defies logic.
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Are you really asking me to justify what Bruno has done to win games and help this team out? I'm not going to do that, if you think that, you think that.
If you think that 'defies logic', you're an utter drama queen. The point was fairly obvious, unless you're dim and are taking it in a literal way and that I'm 'blaming him' for that loss. I'll explain....
We're discussing a player in the context that some feel he isn't getting enough playing time. A poster listed exiting the group stages as a reason that Ole is making bad decisions in how many minutes he has given Donny.
I made a very basic quip that he started in a game that was a large reason we went out. Which indicates that us going out of the group stages was not exactly because we didn't give him enough minutes. It wasn't a detailed response, I didn't feel it was necessary but I was clearly wrong.
He played more CL minutes than Pogba and Greenwood and only played a bit less than Fred and McTominay. So I fail to see how his lack of minutes was a reason we went out at the group stages. If anything, I would suggest that if Pogba had the minutes he had, we may well have gone through in the group stages. He also played more minutes than Matic.
Hopefully that clears that one up for you.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets
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The game in Istanbul had everything to do with the team sheet.
It was a massive mistake from the manager. I said it then.
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The individuals put out on that pitch for Utd were better than the individuals in the Istanbul starting 11.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by The-ComeBack-Kings (U18502)
posted 1 minute ago
For all Ole's supposed great man management, he poorly handled VDB's situation and also Lingard. Both are very capable squad options if used properly, but when you favour Matic - a player that often gets caught napping, and a half fit Sancho instead of players who are fit and ready to prove a point, it shows the reason has nothing to do with football. It is Ironic that for all the improvement he made, Ole himself could the one holding us back not to reach to the next level.
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Has he? Donny has said himself he trusts him and acknowledged he's very good at talking to players who aren't playing. It's literally said in the interview in the OP.
And Ole kept Lingard out of the team when he was playing very poorly and off the back of some personal issues. He loaned him out to a club he felt would do him well, it did. He then supposedly blocked a move away because he feels he can add something to this squad. Lingard seems pretty happy with how he's been managed and rather than ditch this shoddy manager who has badly handled him..... He's wanting to stay and fight for a place?
What am I missing here that suggests he's 'poorly handled' either of them? Both seem pretty up for fighting for their place in the team this season which is a very good attitude for squad players to have. One which a poor man manager probably wouldn't get from them.
The Sancho point is so disingenuous. I'm not even going to bother with that one.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
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comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
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comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Ron (U1646)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Culér (U9489)
posted 19 minutes ago
Ole will do what is best for the team. People forget that we finished second last year under his guidance.
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Also won no trophies, exited the group stages of the champions league
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And a big reason we exited the group stage of the CL?
Losing away to Istanbul.
Who started in that game?
Donny started in that game.
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Who started against Villareal? Another game we should have won.
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Players who have performed and dug the team out of holes repeatedly?
I don't think anybody with a clue would have put Donny in their starting line up that night.
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Which holes were those then? The ones that that led to us winning feck all?
How you can correlate the Istanbul loss to Donny starting, defies logic.
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Are you really asking me to justify what Bruno has done to win games and help this team out? I'm not going to do that, if you think that, you think that.
If you think that 'defies logic', you're an utter drama queen. The point was fairly obvious, unless you're dim and are taking it in a literal way and that I'm 'blaming him' for that loss. I'll explain....
We're discussing a player in the context that some feel he isn't getting enough playing time. A poster listed exiting the group stages as a reason that Ole is making bad decisions in how many minutes he has given Donny.
I made a very basic quip that he started in a game that was a large reason we went out. Which indicates that us going out of the group stages was not exactly because we didn't give him enough minutes. It wasn't a detailed response, I didn't feel it was necessary but I was clearly wrong.
He played more CL minutes than Pogba and Greenwood and only played a bit less than Fred and McTominay. So I fail to see how his lack of minutes was a reason we went out at the group stages. If anything, I would suggest that if Pogba had the minutes he had, we may well have gone through in the group stages. He also played more minutes than Matic.
Hopefully that clears that one up for you.
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I'm not sure what you're rambling on about, but it's got feck all to do with what I said.
posted on 6/9/21
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 5 minutes ago
My point is, they're both games we should have won and have nothing to do with the team sheets
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The game in Istanbul had everything to do with the team sheet.
It was a massive mistake from the manager. I said it then.
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The individuals put out on that pitch for Utd were better than the individuals in the Istanbul starting 11.
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And there is little to no evidence that putting Donny on in Bruno's place would have impacted the game in a positive way. He's failed to have a positive impact in a majority of the appearances he's made. He's not been awful but very average and never imposed himself as a player who you can put on and will change the game in a meaningful way. Bruno has repeatedly come up trumps for us.
If you feel he should have come on as a 6 then I'd be interested in an actual breakdown of why that would have led to the game being different because you clearly have a vision of something that I simply don't.
posted on 6/9/21
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I'm not sure what you're rambling on about, but it's got feck all to do with what I said.
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Thats because you can't read or lack the ability to comprehend what I'm saying. Clearly too many words, not enough pictures for you.
That's the second time you've completely failed to comprehend my point. Not my fault lad....
posted on 7/9/21
We all know that those who are screaming like little girls for Ole to start The Beek will be the first on here to slate the manager the moment their beloved Donny doesn’t put in a stellar performance.