How do you think you'd be handling Arteta killing the team and your career with it, week after week? Would you be standing up for yourself and your teammates at the risk of not playing or would you just shut up, take Arteta's sh !t, tow his BS line and contently pick up your pay cheque because hey who gives a feck long as you get paid.
I can most assuredly say I'd probably have been ousted from the team by Arteta even quicker than Guen. His wholly unjustifiable arrogance combined with the contempt and rudeness he has toward players would have set me straight at odds with Arteta on day one GUARANTEED. The phrase "Just who the feck do you think ya talkin to ya jumped up lil ?" springs to mind as something he would definitely have heard out of my mouth. Likely followed by "Listen here, I don't give a feck who you think you are but you ain't sh !t in the world of football, you ain't done sh !t and you ain't won sh !t so DON'T come in here talking to me ya like someone. YOU AINT PEP, you just worked for him!"
So yeah, think it's safe to say I'd be benched I have to say that the club's decision not to sack him this summer would have had me calling all the boys round to mine before the season even started in a genuine attempt to get all to refuse to play until Arteta is sacked. It's the one move that if made, overwhelmingly forces the hand of the owner. And at this moment, it'd seem that's about the only thing left that can get this fool sacked. So how would you be handling it? For sake of argument a move isn't available for you or Arteta the blocked it and forced you to stay, a la Ains. So ya lumbered, it's either "stand up for yourself" or "tank yet another one of your limited playing years, letting the club waste you on him.
If You Were An Arsenal Player
posted on 7/9/21
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
posted on 7/9/21
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
posted on 7/9/21
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
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I'm still struggling with this part.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
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No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud to ke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by WB2 {Tackle Like Tierney} (U8276)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 23 hours, 16 minutes ago
So in other words you'd just be the player who would believe he is above the manager? You'd be one of the first one's to leave the club.
At the end of the day, these are professional people, vary rarely do you ever call your own manager out to the world or even to your teammates publically. It probably reflects worse on the player than the manager.
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No, I'd be the player standing up for the rookies and youngsters Arteta's ruining the careers of, the one standing up for the PL identity and Ethos of PL Arsenal that Arteta is sh !tting all over.
I'd be the one calling out the failure elephant in the room everyone's pretending they can't see. And the one making it clear to all who heard me, this was not about me and my ego but the team and what it needed, stating my love for the club and wish to stay as I done it..
Explaining how the results were only so poor because morale was so low because none of us wanted to play for this manager anymore. That results couldn't improve until he was gone.
And most of all I'd be the one who had enough balls to say out loud toke, Edu and Arteta's faces what every other player is thinking and feeling but too young or gutless to say it themselves.
When you do something like this the right way, it's called leadership and the distinct lack of it in the AFC team has also been a massive contributor to Arteta getting his way and getting to stay.
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I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
posted on 8/9/21
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 23 hours, 44 minutes ago
If you think of Jose at Chelsea part II, they won the league and then the players started to question Jose's methods and effectively rebelled against him lead by a few ring leaders....and thats Jose, with a wealth of success behind him.
Arteta has nothing. I am amazed that the players have kept faith with him because whatever he's doing its is not working out on the pitch. He must talk a fecking good game
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That's just it they haven't kept faith they've long lost it, THAT'S why we keep losing and why last season was so dire, they lost faith in Arteta by halfway through last season at the latest (when he actually should have been sacked). For some reason people just keep pretending they haven't and it's somehow possible for that idiot to turn this around. It isn't because the players are all long past listening to or believing in him.
They couldn't give a toss what he has to say and they think he's full of sh !t. They'll turn up and they'll train and they'll play but nobody's heart is in it because they're all sat there thinking "Feck this and him, until he's sacked I can't be assed."
posted on 8/9/21
comment by RonAlvinho (U6117)
posted 18 hours, 51 minutes ago
I can most assuredly say I'd probably
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I'm still struggling with this part.
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Hold up, it's the grammar police! Ya got me guv, caught red-handed
posted on 8/9/21
I think your issues run even deeper than just Arteta at the helm though as well, difficult to pin it just on him really.
There are also many different ways of being a spokesperson and having a difficult conversation about somebody without causing major issues within a squad, as the last thing any team needs is confrontation in public.
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For sure we have more issues than just Arteta but for now Arteta is the critical issue killing the club in a hurry. He's gotten and is still getting a pass because people keep blaming all this on player quality and allowing him to do the same. Fans and pundits for that matter need to remember that ALL of the decisions that hurt this team on the pitch last season were made by Arteta. Selling Emi, benching Ains and Guen, strangling Partey's original MF game, repeatedly playing Bellerin, the list goes on.
The way people keep talking about players being crap, you'd think the useless had come out all last season providing top notch transfer conduct, team selection, along with outstanding matchday strategy and game management. But the players were all just too rubbish to execute his brilliant vision of football. That's not it, what actually happened was HE fecked up bigtime early on then kept doubling down on his feck up all season long, because he was and still is too arrogant to admit he is wrong and fix it.
At the end of last season the Arsenal fanbase allowed Arteta to spin the narrative publicly and to Josh and Stan. Instead of the True narrative which was "Arteta's shockingly incompetent decisions result in massive failure," it became "The players aren't good enough." I expect the buy-in to the lie from two dumb yanks too ignorant about football to know better. But the Arsenal fanbase has no excuse because unlike Josh and Stan not only do we know better in footy principle, but we actually WITNESSED every single one of the ps poor decisions Arteta made and exactly what consequences they bore. Saw it before a ball was kicked too. Yet somehow my fellow gooners keep letting Arteta get away with it. Weak,
posted on 9/9/21
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posted on 9/9/21
Just don't let Arteta get close to the Arsenal Women's team, they know how to win!