Newcastle the new M City

comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
I can’t wait to hear what ‘sponsorship’ deals emerge so that Newcastle can spend the same amount of money City got away with using the same dodgy deals.
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I think this will actually be easier now. Because of the sponsorship deals that City and PSG have had and how the wealth of those clubs has grown, Newcastle's owners can argue that any seemingly overpriced deals are based on the potential for long term growth and can use past examples to show how what's overpriced in the present will represent value in the future. It's a strong argument that I'm sure the far more intelligent people than myself running that football club will also be able to use.

comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 39 minutes ago
Apparently it is not stated owned
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In spite of the fact that the head of state is the chairman of the PIF. And in spite of the fact that the deal was only allowed to go through once the state sorted the piracy situation out.

If the state weren't actually going to be owning the club, then why would their TV deals impact upon the purchase of the club? Makes no sense.

I think Newcastle should swerve the option if buying older world class players at the end of their careers for short terms success. Be better off paying better wages and promising 1st team football to some of the best young players that are on the fringes at big clubs.

Will take longer but would certainly build a strong Base faster imo

comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 9 minutes ago
people need to check the turnover of newcastle today and then see how the current rules stack up regarding allowable losses and the elite transfer fees.

these guys would have the jump the revenue side by 5x to be able to spend the money needed to build a full on team of 50 and 100 mil players.

its that simple. 4-500mil of fake revenue is not that easy to create any more.

The "we chop your hands off" st james park stadium sponsorship and the "kill all yemenese" shirt logos can only go so far
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Apparently there are reports suggesting that Mike Ashley left them in a position where they'd be able to spend (or lose) £200m before FFP was to intervene.
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that would probably make sense

newcastle wont be worried by UEFA at this point.

the prem rules state

"The Premier League's profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) allow for losses of up to £105m over a three-year period. The March 2021 assessment was extended to cover a four-year period due to the difficulties and uncertainties created by the coronavirus pandemic."

what you might be saying is Ashely made 100mil profit over the period with newcaslte so they have the flexibility to spend 200mil before hitting that total loss.

This is really the issue though. go find 10 players for 200mil.

Kane 100mil.
haaland 75mil (release)
erm.... starts to get tough.

they need to pump that revenue number up massively to enable the next 300mil of spending.

comment by FootyMcfootfoot (U21853)
posted 1 hour ago
I think Newcastle should swerve the option if buying older world class players at the end of their careers for short terms success. Be better off paying better wages and promising 1st team football to some of the best young players that are on the fringes at big clubs.

Will take longer but would certainly build a strong Base faster imo
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makes total sense

best deals city did were for aguero at age 23, silva at 24 and ederson at age 23.

Overall they have been a fine exmaple of what you are saying compared to some other clubs.

comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by JustYourAverageFan (U21016)
posted 3 hours, 34 minutes ago
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 9 minutes ago
people need to check the turnover of newcastle today and then see how the current rules stack up regarding allowable losses and the elite transfer fees.

these guys would have the jump the revenue side by 5x to be able to spend the money needed to build a full on team of 50 and 100 mil players.

its that simple. 4-500mil of fake revenue is not that easy to create any more.

The "we chop your hands off" st james park stadium sponsorship and the "kill all yemenese" shirt logos can only go so far
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Apparently there are reports suggesting that Mike Ashley left them in a position where they'd be able to spend (or lose) £200m before FFP was to intervene.
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that would probably make sense

newcastle wont be worried by UEFA at this point.

the prem rules state

"The Premier League's profitability and sustainability rules (PSR) allow for losses of up to £105m over a three-year period. The March 2021 assessment was extended to cover a four-year period due to the difficulties and uncertainties created by the coronavirus pandemic."

what you might be saying is Ashely made 100mil profit over the period with newcaslte so they have the flexibility to spend 200mil before hitting that total loss.

This is really the issue though. go find 10 players for 200mil.

Kane 100mil.
haaland 75mil (release)
erm.... starts to get tough.

they need to pump that revenue number up massively to enable the next 300mil of spending.


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That would make sense but players like Kane and Haaland aren't going to be realistic targets for Newcastle really despite the money they have because the likes of City, PSG, Bayern etc can all match what those players would want.

£200m isn't as much as it may seem these days, but it is certainly enough to get half a dozen European quality players at least, not factoring any other sales, that could propel Newcastle higher up the table. They aren't going to be jumping from 19th to challenging at the top end overnight.

Newcastle will be able to retain the cream of footballers from the north east ,all the so called big clubs have raided the north east clubs ,on a regular basis, for decades, as it is the most prolific area per capita for premium footballers,i guess its time for some payback

Newcastle will be able to find their ways to circumvent FFP just like City, Chelsea, and PSG do today.

Spend enough money and they'll eventually become good. City took quite a long time to get good. Chelsea had to spend £300mill... Which in today's transfer market is probably over a billion.

They all eventually became good. Newcastle will too if they spend... It will just take a number of years.

The bigger question is: will they spend like crazy? Just because their owners are crazy rich, it doesn't necessarily mean they will spend money like crazy.

Addendum:
FFP is like paying taxes. It's only something you have to abide by if you're not rich enough to be able to get the loopholes to work for you.

Apparently Newcastle now want Michael Edwards to play mr moneyball at newcastle.

seems the reasons why he wasn't going to sign a new deal are coming clear!