Olesexuals 3-0 Diddums - El Sackico LIVE!

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comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
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Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
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And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
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You wont get an answer for that one.
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I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
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Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
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Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
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Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Read it through if you want to know. Im not getting involved with the knobjockey and it wasnt Red Indian. Its just fackin football opinions between people who claim to support the same team. No need for this kind of caper.


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I agree that type of comment is out of order. I’ll take your word it was said as going through all these comments is worse than watching LVG’s United.
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Dont blame you robb

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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
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And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
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I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
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Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
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Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
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Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Agree but that said forums are also a platform for reasonable discussion and I am not a man who derides that, but when said *discussion" becomes a reparative nonsensical chatter don't you think it's being personalised and without reason?

I have yet to see anyone on here saying that Ole is the answer and should stay but the majority of comments are so similar and say the same as they've said for weeks on end?

"repatative" sorry, drunk and no specs, my bad

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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
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Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
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Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
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Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Agree but that said forums are also a platform for reasonable discussion and I am not a man who derides that, but when said *discussion" becomes a reparative nonsensical chatter don't you think it's being personalised and without reason?

I have yet to see anyone on here saying that Ole is the answer and should stay but the majority of comments are so similar and say the same as they've said for weeks on end?
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It’s just the consequence of being on a forum that runs throughout a 9 month long season. To use an analogy it’s like watching a 24 hour news channel. There’s not enough news for 24 hours of TV so a lot of it is repeated and regurgitated to the point of being mind numbing.

There’s days between games and in any normal world we’d make our points known and then just crack on with our lives but instead we overanalyse things and through some kind of race to the bottom we pick apart the same issue a hundred times over and it gets tedious. I don’t think anyone actively wants to be that guy. It’s just oh so easy to hammer home the same point when a forum like this exists purely to pass the time.

TL:DR, forums are where restraint and reason go to die 😂

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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
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Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
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Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Read it through if you want to know. Im not getting involved with the knobjockey and it wasnt Red Indian. Its just fackin football opinions between people who claim to support the same team. No need for this kind of caper.


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I agree that type of comment is out of order. I’ll take your word it was said as going through all these comments is worse than watching LVG’s United.
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It was that utter moron currently calling himself U21692 Progression Not Regression (U21692)

Previously called himself 'Berbinho Forehead', and 'Cultural Reboot Palestine' or something similar.

Guy is right wrong 'un, surprised he hasn't been banned before after wishing death on other people's family members. Utterly vile.

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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Read it through if you want to know. Im not getting involved with the knobjockey and it wasnt Red Indian. Its just fackin football opinions between people who claim to support the same team. No need for this kind of caper.


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I agree that type of comment is out of order. I’ll take your word it was said as going through all these comments is worse than watching LVG’s United.
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It was that utter moron currently calling himself U21692 Progression Not Regression (U21692)

Previously called himself 'Berbinho Forehead', and 'Cultural Reboot Palestine' or something similar.

Guy is right wrong 'un, surprised he hasn't been banned before after wishing death on other people's family members. Utterly vile.
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Dont think it was just him either

That Berbinho idiot called Rashford Trashford. What a douche

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comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree but that said forums are also a platform for reasonable discussion and I am not a man who derides that, but when said *discussion" becomes a reparative nonsensical chatter don't you think it's being personalised and without reason?

I have yet to see anyone on here saying that Ole is the answer and should stay but the majority of comments are so similar and say the same as they've said for weeks on end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s just the consequence of being on a forum that runs throughout a 9 month long season. To use an analogy it’s like watching a 24 hour news channel. There’s not enough news for 24 hours of TV so a lot of it is repeated and regurgitated to the point of being mind numbing.

There’s days between games and in any normal world we’d make our points known and then just crack on with our lives but instead we overanalyse things and through some kind of race to the bottom we pick apart the same issue a hundred times over and it gets tedious. I don’t think anyone actively wants to be that guy. It’s just oh so easy to hammer home the same point when a forum like this exists purely to pass the time.

TL:DR, forums are where restraint and reason go to die 😂
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Oh I agree, forums are a place that allows everyone to say what they feel

I defo spout sheite at times on here but what vexes me is the level of recidivism and repeat about the same man/subject/situation, that and them being disengeous, at best with their posts that makes it painful to read

No doubt in my, or anyone that Ole has taken us as far as he can, and for that I thank him, he's changed thinks up and now it's time for a new manager to move us forward in a new direction BUT some are nippy asf with their chatter?

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comment by Robbb Conte (U22716)
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comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man. Regular Human Bartender. (U1270)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
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Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
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How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
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Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Agree but that said forums are also a platform for reasonable discussion and I am not a man who derides that, but when said *discussion" becomes a reparative nonsensical chatter don't you think it's being personalised and without reason?

I have yet to see anyone on here saying that Ole is the answer and should stay but the majority of comments are so similar and say the same as they've said for weeks on end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s just the consequence of being on a forum that runs throughout a 9 month long season. To use an analogy it’s like watching a 24 hour news channel. There’s not enough news for 24 hours of TV so a lot of it is repeated and regurgitated to the point of being mind numbing.

There’s days between games and in any normal world we’d make our points known and then just crack on with our lives but instead we overanalyse things and through some kind of race to the bottom we pick apart the same issue a hundred times over and it gets tedious. I don’t think anyone actively wants to be that guy. It’s just oh so easy to hammer home the same point when a forum like this exists purely to pass the time.

TL:DR, forums are where restraint and reason go to die 😂
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Oh I agree, forums are a place that allows everyone to say what they feel

I defo spout sheite at times on here but what vexes me is the level of recidivism and repeat about the same man/subject/situation, that and them being disengeous, at best with their posts that makes it painful to read

No doubt in my, or anyone that Ole has taken us as far as he can, and for that I thank him, he's changed thinks up and now it's time for a new manager to move us forward in a new direction BUT some are nippy asf with their chatter?
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I don’t disagree and props for getting recidivism into a comment. Today I’m gonna make a point of using that myself in conversation 😂

I guess people are gonna people. Me personally, I have very little doubt Ole is running on fumes but am gonna just keep a ‘non mean’ policy going forward until he’s gone and just focus on the good things that happen until then. I genuinely do think 99.9999% of the United support on here do want what’s best for United. Just in various levels of what is and isn’t acceptable to say in polite conversation.

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comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
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comment by The Post Nearly Man. Regular Human Bartender. (U1270)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Plump - I don't condone chewing someone's nails 🤢 (U22314)
posted 3 hours, 20 minutes ago
Good result but surely nothing has changed in terms of Ole's future. Just delays the envitable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And if he wins next week and the ten after that nothing changes?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You wont get an answer for that one.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd love to see that happen. 99% because it's winning, 1% because it'd shut these whining little biatches on here down for 11 games, and I wouldn't have to read the word facking ''Conte" appearing every five minutes from joke posters
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Its the level of personal abuse that the manager gets from some of the cretins that is bang out of order that gets me ... even though they claim that he never gets abuse, just observational criticism

Really? Just read this thread.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

How is it personal abuse when he doesn’t read it? You seem more like a diddums than anyone on here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Robb you are the one who said he didnt get abuse. Calling sombody a khunt and he should feck off back to the country he comes from is personal abuse on the internet. You know this. Could even be illegal. What are you actually defending here.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Who said that? If someone said that it’s out of order but the vaaaaast majority of comments on here are just people venting on a forum that no one of any importance reads. It doesn’t mean anything and apart from that weird comment and any comment that is typed by Red Indian it’s just harmless steam being let off by people who do what forums are for.
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Agree but that said forums are also a platform for reasonable discussion and I am not a man who derides that, but when said *discussion" becomes a reparative nonsensical chatter don't you think it's being personalised and without reason?

I have yet to see anyone on here saying that Ole is the answer and should stay but the majority of comments are so similar and say the same as they've said for weeks on end?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It’s just the consequence of being on a forum that runs throughout a 9 month long season. To use an analogy it’s like watching a 24 hour news channel. There’s not enough news for 24 hours of TV so a lot of it is repeated and regurgitated to the point of being mind numbing.

There’s days between games and in any normal world we’d make our points known and then just crack on with our lives but instead we overanalyse things and through some kind of race to the bottom we pick apart the same issue a hundred times over and it gets tedious. I don’t think anyone actively wants to be that guy. It’s just oh so easy to hammer home the same point when a forum like this exists purely to pass the time.

TL:DR, forums are where restraint and reason go to die 😂
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Oh I agree, forums are a place that allows everyone to say what they feel

I defo spout sheite at times on here but what vexes me is the level of recidivism and repeat about the same man/subject/situation, that and them being disengeous, at best with their posts that makes it painful to read

No doubt in my, or anyone that Ole has taken us as far as he can, and for that I thank him, he's changed thinks up and now it's time for a new manager to move us forward in a new direction BUT some are nippy asf with their chatter?
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I don’t disagree and props for getting recidivism into a comment. Today I’m gonna make a point of using that myself in conversation 😂

I guess people are gonna people. Me personally, I have very little doubt Ole is running on fumes but am gonna just keep a ‘non mean’ policy going forward until he’s gone and just focus on the good things that happen until then. I genuinely do think 99.9999% of the United support on here do want what’s best for United. Just in various levels of what is and isn’t acceptable to say in polite conversation.
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Aye I have NO issue with people saying they want Ole out, that's an opinion, it's the saddos that just continuely tear him a new one and disparage him on all levels post after post that irk me, also the posters that want Utd to lose so he gets sacked are beyond my comprehension?