Law and order

comment by RB&W - The Front Man (U21434)
posted 23 minutes ago
Law and Order. At first glance it seems similar to crime and punishment which has gone before, but really it is quite different.

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looks like that has been kicked into touch MU52
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comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 39 minutes ago
For how long in prison? Some people can’t be rehabilitated so that’s a clear flaw in the system. So when they come out, they will likely reoffend. Is that okay? It’s akin to letting a lion out in a field of defenceless lambs
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You’ve actually become a parody.

I worked in a community safety rile for a number of years. It was quite a senior role and involved working with superintendents and commanders if various LPUs (local policing units). As a youngster I had wanted to be a policeman but now I wouldn't do it for the money in the world.

The issue for me isn't about the criminals in the justice system but the so called purveyors of the law. We have increasingly become like america (or what I have seen over the years of America)

I have always supported the notion of a death penalty, but would argue against it in this country. Simply because I don't think the legal system here is trustworthy.

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 7 minutes ago
I worked in a community safety rile for a number of years. It was quite a senior role and involved working with superintendents and commanders if various LPUs (local policing units). As a youngster I had wanted to be a policeman but now I wouldn't do it for the money in the world.

The issue for me isn't about the criminals in the justice system but the so called purveyors of the law. We have increasingly become like america (or what I have seen over the years of America)

I have always supported the notion of a death penalty, but would argue against it in this country. Simply because I don't think the legal system here is trustworthy.
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Where would you suggest there is a trustworthy legal system?
I agree with you. Just wonder where it's better.

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 7 minutes ago
I worked in a community safety rile for a number of years. It was quite a senior role and involved working with superintendents and commanders if various LPUs (local policing units). As a youngster I had wanted to be a policeman but now I wouldn't do it for the money in the world.

The issue for me isn't about the criminals in the justice system but the so called purveyors of the law. We have increasingly become like america (or what I have seen over the years of America)

I have always supported the notion of a death penalty, but would argue against it in this country. Simply because I don't think the legal system here is trustworthy.
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Where would you suggest there is a trustworthy legal system?
I agree with you. Just wonder where it's better.
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Don't know is the true answer. I don't know enough about others to make a decision tbh.

Im not claiming I know everything about ours either tbf, but I have seen enough to know that it is deeply flawed.

I've literally sat in meetings or witnessed what I would call set ups. And I think some of the organisations that have been established over the years do nothing for "justice" but rather their own agendas

Fair enough.

Death row in Japan is mental. You don't know your execution date until the lads rock up to your cell that morning with the news.

Now there's mental torment. Not knowing if any day will be your last

Every legal system in the world is awash with miscarriages of justice. Why?

Man makes laws in parliament. Man then has to interpret those laws, many of which can be ambiguous, and apply those laws in court. Many statutes have been proven to be bad law.

In absence of statutory laws, man has to use precedence set by past cases and apply those in a given situation. Again interpretations can be ambiguous. Advances in forensic science has aided courts.

Add a further layer of complexity. We require unqualified lay people to determine the guilt or innocence of defendants using the reasonable person rationale. All part of society seeking retribution against criminals.

Imagine in the absence of forensic sciences how many defendants were unjustly given death sentences over the last 200 odd years.

Anything involving human beings is prone to error, even now.

comment by Jinja Ninja (U19849)
posted 5 hours, 45 minutes ago
I worked in a community safety rile for a number of years. It was quite a senior role and involved working with superintendents and commanders if various LPUs (local policing units). As a youngster I had wanted to be a policeman but now I wouldn't do it for the money in the world.

The issue for me isn't about the criminals in the justice system but the so called purveyors of the law. We have increasingly become like america (or what I have seen over the years of America)

I have always supported the notion of a death penalty, but would argue against it in this country. Simply because I don't think the legal system here is trustworthy.
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Death penalty is wrong in any country because all legal systems are imperfect.

Advances in forensic science or just better general evidence gathering allows new evidence to come to light often exonerating those accused of crimes. Death penalty would deny those wrongly accused to have the right to quash convictions.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/17/nyregion/malcolm-x-killing-exonerated.html

Littering. All of over the place. Illegal.