Traore

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 7 hours, 28 minutes ago
I find this stat that Traore has no assists to be such a red herring in assessing what he brings to the team. In a recent home game he cut in from the left beat three players crossed to Kilman who headed it down for Coady to bundle home. There was nothing on at all when Traore picked up the ball but it’s Kilman who gets the assist because he was the last player to touch it before the scorer. At Brighton he played Podence clean through with the keeper to beat but he missed. Then shortly after he put Trincao through with the keeper to beat and he missed.

So does this no assist stat translate to Traore creates nothing? I doubt if any other Wolves player has created more chances than Traore this season or last
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Agree with this.

Last weekend there was nothing on when Adama picked the ball up out wide and left the United defender for dead, before putting in a great cross that ex England defender Phil Jones could only head out to the edge of the area for Moutinho to fire home.

Easily worth £40million (and if Flatrack Kane is worth £100million) maybe double that.

More than Traore’s performances the thing likely to see him leave is that he has been offered an improved contract and hasn’t signed it. Clearly the club won’t want him to leave on a free so a sale does look inevitable. I think if that happens we should make that in the summer not now. The market is healthier in the summer and there’s the chance of getting an auction going. Also in terms of our squad I think it would weaken us to sell him before Neto is back and up to speed

comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 1 minute ago
More than Traore’s performances the thing likely to see him leave is that he has been offered an improved contract and hasn’t signed it. Clearly the club won’t want him to leave on a free so a sale does look inevitable. I think if that happens we should make that in the summer not now. The market is healthier in the summer and there’s the chance of getting an auction going. Also in terms of our squad I think it would weaken us to sell him before Neto is back and up to speed
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Surely you can charge more of a premium in January. I am sure Mendes will have a replacement lined up for you guys

comment by TheBlackCountry (U22512)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Spangles (U17289)
posted 7 hours, 28 minutes ago
I find this stat that Traore has no assists to be such a red herring in assessing what he brings to the team. In a recent home game he cut in from the left beat three players crossed to Kilman who headed it down for Coady to bundle home. There was nothing on at all when Traore picked up the ball but it’s Kilman who gets the assist because he was the last player to touch it before the scorer. At Brighton he played Podence clean through with the keeper to beat but he missed. Then shortly after he put Trincao through with the keeper to beat and he missed.

So does this no assist stat translate to Traore creates nothing? I doubt if any other Wolves player has created more chances than Traore this season or last
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Agree with this.

Last weekend there was nothing on when Adama picked the ball up out wide and left the United defender for dead, before putting in a great cross that ex England defender Phil Jones could only head out to the edge of the area for Moutinho to fire home.

Easily worth £40million (and if Flatrack Kane is worth £100million) maybe double that.
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he is great fun to watch and I would miss him
he does add value to the team
but we need a central midfielder and central defender
it seems we cannot have it all

I love him but he frustrates me so much.
At the end of the day I would be sorry to see him go, but for a big fee I believe we and he would be better off.

I think Jimenez actually leads the team in chances created per 90 minutes, not Traore. Jimenez has higher key pass stats, as well as more goals. In terms of key passes, there isn't actually a lot between our forward players. One key statistic is that Podence has two assists in the PL with half the game time of Traore.

It would be interesting to see the stats on chances created as team with Traore in the side and without him in the side to be honest. Traore is very much a player that relies on individualism and it does impact the overall balance of the team. It wouldn't surprise me if as a team we created less with him on the pitch.

Bizarrely overrated by so many because he runs fast and looks exciting. Never mind he can't pass, pass and move, track back, shoot etc etc.

Get ball, head down, charge, nice if you plan to just be a counter attacking outfit forever but if you have any intentions of dominating the ball he is worthless.

My fear is not Traore leaving, but a very good offer for Neves coming in during this window.

He is our most valuable asset at the moment but I can’t see he is agitating to leave just now and it would be lunacy and negligent to sell him as we are short in his position to say the least but medium term we will do well to hang onto him