Did anyone else on here notice the scenario that was acted out during the delay, while awaiting our penalty near the end yesterday? Dave grabbed the ball and stood on the penalty spot with the ball, as if he was going to take the penalty and inevitably a few Palmeiras players were in his face, obviously chirping in his earhole to try and put him off the penalty, that they thought that he was going to take.
Meanwhile Havertz walked well away from the action, quietly knowing all the time that he was the one taking the pen and then once the Ref had cleared the area Dave deliberately threw the ball to Havertz who had gradually walked back towards the action and placed it on the spot, and then vacated the area, by which time no player could have gone back in the area to have a word, because they clearly would have been booked at that point. I think that this may well be something that we see being done more regularly in the future, than we have until now. I have to admit that I had never seen something as obviously sensible as that done before, but maybe I am wrong and other teams were already doing it.
Not seen that before but I liked it
posted on 13/2/22
Yeah, good tactic by Dave, saw his interview talking about it earlier today - good captaincy!
posted on 13/2/22
.......I was only looking for my broken biscuit Brum !
posted on 13/2/22
All though you are correct - and yes its a good idea, it really just leads back to one thing. Weak refs and no one in the FA/FIFA/UEFA just making some simple changes to the ref handbook like other sports. Back when I was younger I was a qualified football ref and hockey umpire, and the difference between the 2 regarding discipline is frankly shocking.
And funnily it is such an easy change I still don't know why it hasn't been done. The rules that are in the handbook and reminded to the players before each game (yes it was actually a thing to go to the changing rooms or some other space before the game to introduce yourself) that during any foul a maxing of 2 players can approach you (the player who committed the foul and their captain), any others will lead to a booking. If players approach on more than 1 occasion the captain will be booked for not being able to control their players.
So a couple of safeguards put into place - again not sure why this isn't done, the refs have the power to easily control the game yet for some reason don't........
BTW this was all 15ish + years ago and yet here we are with undisciplined players
posted on 13/2/22
comment by Simon West (U1830)
posted 42 minutes ago
All though you are correct - and yes its a good idea, it really just leads back to one thing. Weak refs and no one in the FA/FIFA/UEFA just making some simple changes to the ref handbook like other sports. Back when I was younger I was a qualified football ref and hockey umpire, and the difference between the 2 regarding discipline is frankly shocking.
And funnily it is such an easy change I still don't know why it hasn't been done. The rules that are in the handbook and reminded to the players before each game (yes it was actually a thing to go to the changing rooms or some other space before the game to introduce yourself) that during any foul a maxing of 2 players can approach you (the player who committed the foul and their captain), any others will lead to a booking. If players approach on more than 1 occasion the captain will be booked for not being able to control their players.
So a couple of safeguards put into place - again not sure why this isn't done, the refs have the power to easily control the game yet for some reason don't........
BTW this was all 15ish + years ago and yet here we are with undisciplined players
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Adding to that, it was stated at the time that VAR would stop players surrounding match officials. Has it feck!
I am sick to the teeth of seeing this every match and its down to weak match officials and weak governance of the game by the FA. All they ever do is feckin talk and do nothing.
Captains only is the rule in rugby and it shoudl be the same in football.
posted on 13/2/22
I watched but didn't realise that was the tactic until I read about it this morning. Such an obvious thing to do, once you've seen it done. I'm sure more will do this.
posted on 13/2/22
It's quite true what you say Simon & Biggish, in a proper scenario such behaviour shouldn't be happening but the fact is that it (wrongly) does go on and seems to go unpunished, bar the odd booking. It looked like one of their players was trying to play around with the penalty spot also, which we've all seen done before and shouldn't be happening either, which is why our team came up with what I thought was an innovative and unusual tactic to successfully combat it.
In an ideal world there should be a zero tolerance to any of that kind of bollox and whoever is doing it (including us).
posted on 14/2/22
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posted on 14/2/22
comment by DaveChels (U22639)
posted 35 minutes ago
Have never seen it before. He was also in the ref's ear after the var decision asking if it was a red card too. 5 mins to go and the penalty isn't enoughgreat stuff
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Yeh lets ignore the rules because??
posted on 14/2/22
comment by DaveChels (U22639)
posted 38 minutes ago
Have never seen it before. He was also in the ref's ear after the var decision asking if it was a red card too. 5 mins to go and the penalty isn't enoughgreat stuff
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I'm not so pleased about the later.
posted on 14/2/22
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