Marco Roca

Maybe the right coach will get the best out of Firpo, as Bielsa did with KP, but is Jesse the man to do it? Re Orta, I don’t have faith in him but I do think our first two signings are excellent.

He's a good passer on YouTube. Does those long range KP type balls from what I've seen.

comment by Batty 🇺🇦 (U4664)
posted 4 hours, 49 minutes ago
Yes, I think you're right Germany.

And I think we all appreciate how deep Bayern's squad is. It's not like he can't get into Burnley or Southampton's
first XI. Bayern's one of the world's elite.

Saying that, the counter is, Firpo. Who couldn't get
into Barcelona's first team. Which blows up my
argument. Oh well.
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Minamino only plays for Liverpool against Chesterfield and Oldham yet loads of Leeds fans rave about him.

comment by Outwood White (U9610)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
He's a good passer on YouTube. Does those long range KP type balls from what I've seen.
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Litterally just watched one. Can put a penalty away too!

"Lorralorimer (U18994)

posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago

Maybe the right coach will get the best out of Firpo, as Bielsa did with KP, but is Jesse the man to do it? Re Orta, I don’t have faith in him but I do think our first two signings are excellent."

I've said a couple off times over here mates say he wasn't any good at Leipzig!..

But one or two have said he wasn't really given a proper chance!..

So hopefully he comes good and we have another couple off years off great football!..

Think it's too early to be using Firpo as the barometer for failure, to be honest. Give him another season before writing him off.

I'd be happy with Roca. He did very well with Espanyol, and was one of the hot commodities in Europe for a while. Not worked out at Bayern, but their fans seem to like him, and think he should get more opportunities, so he must do well when he plays.

Big difference between Roca and Firpo, is that Firpo wasn't playing because he got bad injuries, which have carried into this season, and mean he started off tiers behind where we needed him fitness wise. Roca shouldn't have that problem, especially as a summer signing.

I think firpo has looked alright going forward. Defensively been a car crash. Some of that is positioning, perhaps not understanding the role/system. Stop start with injuries definitely won’t have helped.

Part of me wants to give him a clean slate with JM, part of me has shivers at the prospect of starting the season with him as first choice left back with no quality ‘cover’.

Roca looks like a decent buy at the price quoted. Caveat being why Bayern are so wiling to let him go ‘on the cheap’

The first thing I would be asking is what is his injury record like. If anything, Marsch's compact, pressing game is going to generate more physical contact than Bielsa's.
As for our new recruits, they look promising, but we dearly need players with Premier league pedigree. Yes, you pay a premium for them, but there is a reason for that. They know the course.
We have shelled out a fortune on players who look promising in the past, including internationals, who simply did not adapt. I would like to see us being linked with known perfromers in the Premier League and quality players in the Championship.
Have we not learned the lesson?

Look at the stats of the top teams in the Premiership. Plenty of good players who would improve our team are getting less than 20 games a season.

A few journo views doing the rounds on roca. No doubts about his ball playing ability… a few questioning his physical suitability for the Prem. On one level seems a ‘bargain’… on another, he’s not the Duracell bunny player profile you might expect us to go for.