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Chelsea evolution or revolution

https://youtu.be/UO2azzs6bu4

I have no idea who this guy is or his alliegence but he makes a pretty good summary of how I see things currently at the club. His math is a bit questionable at one point and he is a little dramatic in delivery but it's uncanny. He pretty much explains Chelsea right now as I see us and he is shrewd enough to recognise the youngsters we bought this summer. I'm not so sure our winter window will be that big a deal, it's a tough window to crack but other than that I wouldn't argue.

posted on 11/9/22

couldnt be arrised to hear it all as so many adverts on his channel, but the bs aout tv money being our downfall is just that. Man city have got owners around that time with as much and more financing that roman, so have a few other clubs round uk and europe so that in itsself is going to make winning trophies harder as more teams come to the big table.
no idea if Potter is the answer, i doubt it but await final decision as im a chelsea fan not any manager or player fan. Can he make the right decisions to bring us back from 2-0 down against a well playing Liverpool thats where the proof will come.
Hopefully Todd and co, arent looking to the galacticos solution as suggested by wanting Ronaldo yes hes good but hes poison for anyone.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 11/9/22

I don't disagree with any of that, I do think though that Potter could be anyone, he has been chosen but I put more emphasis on the intent than the detail if that makes sense.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 11/9/22

I've come across that guy before, he's a United fan I think? He is too dramatic, puts me off him

The building for the long term argument in football is a bit of a fallacy in itself. Every team thinks long term, we did under Abramovich, but few owners can withstand the pressure of short term failure - that's the real test, not harbouring intentions of building something in the first place. It's like entering into a relationship, you want to believe it'll last otherwise why engage in it? That means nothing in itself, the test is do you stick around once the passion begins fading?

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 11/9/22

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 33 seconds ago
I've come across that guy before, he's a United fan I think? He is too dramatic, puts me off him

The building for the long term argument in football is a bit of a fallacy in itself. Every team thinks long term, we did under Abramovich, but few owners can withstand the pressure of short term failure - that's the real test, not harbouring intentions of building something in the first place. It's like entering into a relationship, you want to believe it'll last otherwise why engage in it? That means nothing in itself, the test is do you stick around once the passion begins fading?
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I agree that every team thinks long term, and those long term plans can be flexible, fit example Romans long term plan involved short, medium and long term objectives, there were clear signs of all of them throughout his ownership, timescales weren't exact but that's not uncommon in projects. Clearlake have a minimum ten year plan, the youngsters bought alongside the more experienced players reflect that in my view which is promising, again, just my view

posted on 11/9/22

I think the powerhouse claims are premature and baseless but he does make some interesting points.

His argument about TV money is interesting but he has omitted to take into consideration how Man City changed the landscape and how the arrival of Pep then took City to yet another level.

I am concerned that after this summer spending spree how under FFP rules Chelsea can continue to be allowed to spend heavily

posted on 11/9/22

If there was long term planning at Chelsea under Roman we would have not hat to spend over £160m on defenders this summer whilst the like of Tomori and co flourish at other clubs.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 11/9/22

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 1 minute ago
I think the powerhouse claims are premature and baseless but he does make some interesting points.

His argument about TV money is interesting but he has omitted to take into consideration how Man City changed the landscape and how the arrival of Pep then took City to yet another level.

I am concerned that after this summer spending spree how under FFP rules Chelsea can continue to be allowed to spend heavily
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That sort of spend is not sustainable for sure, I don't see it as a regular thing. Look at City, their net spend wasn't great over the summer I believe, once we get organised I hope we can become as efficient. It will be interesting to see how recent events pan out.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 11/9/22

comment by SWTN - Judas is number 1 (U7916)
posted 2 minutes ago
If there was long term planning at Chelsea under Roman we would have not hat to spend over £160m on defenders this summer whilst the like of Tomori and co flourish at other clubs.
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That was not down to long term planning nor does long-term planning prevent mistakes, look at Salah and KDB, long term planning brought them to the club, mistakes cost us their services. Without the long term planning of our academy, we would not be in the position to make mistakes like Tomori.

comment by Devil (U6522)

posted on 11/9/22

comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 5 minutes ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 33 seconds ago
I've come across that guy before, he's a United fan I think? He is too dramatic, puts me off him

The building for the long term argument in football is a bit of a fallacy in itself. Every team thinks long term, we did under Abramovich, but few owners can withstand the pressure of short term failure - that's the real test, not harbouring intentions of building something in the first place. It's like entering into a relationship, you want to believe it'll last otherwise why engage in it? That means nothing in itself, the test is do you stick around once the passion begins fading?
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I agree that every team thinks long term, and those long term plans can be flexible, fit example Romans long term plan involved short, medium and long term objectives, there were clear signs of all of them throughout his ownership, timescales weren't exact but that's not uncommon in projects. Clearlake have a minimum ten year plan, the youngsters bought alongside the more experienced players reflect that in my view which is promising, again, just my view
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The impression I got from them this summer was they wanted to make a short term impact first & foremost, which I've got no problem with. Had issues with the chaotic, scattergun approach but the intentions were good, they clearly know the club & what the fans have grown accustomed too. So is the realisation they need a DoF to avoid that happening again. These are good things

Potter is a long term thinking appointment for sure, my point was simply that in itself doesn't mean much. If they back up that line of thinking with actions (and inaction in the case of withstanding pressure to sack him if that situation arises) in the coming years, fair play.

comment by JFDI (U1657)

posted on 11/9/22

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by JFDI (U1657)
posted 5 minutes ago

comment by Devil (U6522)
posted 33 seconds ago
I've come across that guy before, he's a United fan I think? He is too dramatic, puts me off him

The building for the long term argument in football is a bit of a fallacy in itself. Every team thinks long term, we did under Abramovich, but few owners can withstand the pressure of short term failure - that's the real test, not harbouring intentions of building something in the first place. It's like entering into a relationship, you want to believe it'll last otherwise why engage in it? That means nothing in itself, the test is do you stick around once the passion begins fading?
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I agree that every team thinks long term, and those long term plans can be flexible, fit example Romans long term plan involved short, medium and long term objectives, there were clear signs of all of them throughout his ownership, timescales weren't exact but that's not uncommon in projects. Clearlake have a minimum ten year plan, the youngsters bought alongside the more experienced players reflect that in my view which is promising, again, just my view
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The impression I got from them this summer was they wanted to make a short term impact first & foremost, which I've got no problem with. Had issues with the chaotic, scattergun approach but the intentions were good, they clearly know the club & what the fans have grown accustomed too. So is the realisation they need a DoF to avoid that happening again. These are good things

Potter is a long term thinking appointment for sure, my point was simply that in itself doesn't mean much. If they back up that line of thinking with actions (and inaction in the case of withstanding pressure to sack him if that situation arises) in the coming years, fair play.
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Yep, it will be interesting to see how it all pans out for sure, here we go again lol.

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