Was on court till 16:000 so recorded match and tried avoiding the score, but saw score at 1-0 and sky glowing about Leeds and then saw 1-1 and Leeds not knowing what hit them.
Got home and watched the match and really didnt see what Sky saw.
I saw a messy first half, we pressed more, but not was messy and commentator said it was just like Bielsa football, its' nothing like it, its running around a lot and winning lots of balls and then running out of steam and ideas.
Aaronson goes on run that Sky describe as beating whole Palace team but reality is a bit of control, miscontrol and luck and he gets a great shot away and Struijk gets the rebound.
Thought Bamford looked good and there has to be more the ref can do with blatant short pulls that Guehi did.
Aaronson much better on wing than central as someone alluded to last week, Kristensen with not that much to do, neither Cooper nor Koch.
Out of nothing Pace make it 1-1 and looking forward to second half.
Palace then came more and more into the game and apart from a few minutes of literal end to end stuff it was mostly Palace.
Haha never really got a chance to run at Kristensen, Aarsonson ran out of steam, Bamford's race was run and then we bring on Summerville, who I just don't think costs it at this level.
Comment last week was that we have a string bench, but we don't, still full of kids, midgets and lack of first team appearances.
I think Adams is growing into the role, but very slowly, Harrison is ineffective without supply and we miss those long balls from Philips.
Rodrigo is wasted in midfield.
Substitutions just ineffective and our lack of potency in front of goal must surely now be seen by all (even Marsch now admitting it), one can only hope Gnonto has goals in him because as I've said before, I believe we're going to be in a relegation fight, indeed, had we not gotten that unexpected 3 points v Chelsea we'd be level on points with Wolves in relegation position and next up we face Arsenal.
Until Palace scored their second it felt like Villa, ie up against a team that had chances but unable to score.
What will it be like v Arsenal and Liverpool in our next 3 games?
Many complained about Bielsa not having a plan B.
I don't see any plan B from Marsch, its just lots of running around and hoping some mistakes go your way, I just see no game plan at all and the worst thing is, results like this don't surprise me any more, I'm expecting them.
Marsch however felt he was pleased with the performance.
This is against a lower half/mid table team at best who hadn't won in last 4 matches and struggle at home.
This is going to be another long season.
Thoughts from today
posted on 10/10/22
IMO our old guard are no longer fit for purpose. Bamford: we’ve had one productive season out of him.
Ayling: unpredictable at the best of times, he’s run out steam.
Cooper: a talisman who’s lost his powers. Makes costly mistakes week after week.
Dallas: could have had a decent season in him but for a self-induced injury at the end of last season.
Klich: he’s a bit-part player who’s lost the ability to make an impact when subbed on.
In the case of all the above, I hate to say it but time has caught up with them and I believe that (Bamf possibly excepted) they’re now Championship players. These are the players Radz and Orta should have replaced this summer.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 5 hours, 11 minutes ago
comment by White as Snow (U22893)
posted 2 minutes ago
"Bamford looked good"
When?
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Jonty thought Bamford was our best player last week as well. Not seen a journo who has scored him more than 5.
Cooper was poor today, for the second goal in paticular he went to ground leaving a huge space for Eze to run in to. I have a lot of time for Liam but he had a bit of a shocker.
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"comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 2 minutes ago
Interesting you thought Meslier was a shadow of himself Jonty . Hinchcliffe was also very critical of him but the Sky journo covering the game thought he was the best player. I largely agree.
In a very poor game who do you think was Player of the Match?
https://www.skysports.com/football/leeds-united-vs-aston-villa/464719
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Bamford"
Out of a poor showing all round last week I thought for the time he was on the pitch, he was our best player yes, and yesterday, for a player out nearly for a whole year, he showed a clean pair of heels to the Palace defence requiring the most blatant of shirt pulls to hold him back, great movement to get in position for shot on goal, two other times got himself in really dangerous positions, this creates space for other players.
Bamford offered more yesterday than Rodrigo, Summerville and Gelhardt combined.
So, simple question for you, who offered more, the returning from injury Bamford, or his replacement Summerville?
posted on 10/10/22
Or put it this way Jonty……….
Leeds worst period of the game was 62 minutes and onwards
Bamford absolutely crucial to this side.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 22 minutes ago
Or put it this way Jonty……….
Leeds worst period of the game was 62 minutes and onwards
Bamford absolutely crucial to this side.
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I'm not specifically a Bamford fan, but he performed at decent level since coming back and when you've been out injured for so long it takes a long time to regain match fitness.
posted on 10/10/22
'Bamford absolutely crucial to this side'.
Sad thing is we have known this for the last few seasons and not sorted out an adequate replacement / back up.
posted on 10/10/22
Bamford looked cooked well before half time yesterday. Having a striker who can hold the ball up and bring others into play is crucial to how the this side - that thrives on quick passes forward - plays. Problem is we don’t have a like for like replacement. So when he goes off we rejig the entire front line. We’d lost control of the midfield by then yesterday anyway so anyone up front would have been starved of service.
Bamford caused some problems for them yesterday but personally I thought he was rusty as hell and gave the ball away/fecked up some promising positions. He was both the solution and the problem
posted on 10/10/22
Got it in one there Milky - exactly my take on it.
posted on 10/10/22
Personally I think Bamford is struggling, he looked sluggish and offered little yesterday. He should have scored but did little else to earn any form of accolade.
Be it because he is not yet full match fit or a change of system or the 100 goals weighing on his mind, I don't know.
Adams, Aaaronson, Rasmus, Koch all had better games.
posted on 10/10/22
comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 3 hours, 58 minutes ago
Personally I think Bamford is struggling, he looked sluggish and offered little yesterday. He should have scored but did little else to earn any form of accolade.
Be it because he is not yet full match fit or a change of system or the 100 goals weighing on his mind, I don't know.
Adams, Aaaronson, Rasmus, Koch all had better games.
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Agree. Bamford is probably the most important player on Leeds. But not in the condition he's been in for the last season and a half. Plus he's missing more sitters than he scores.
posted on 10/10/22
This was the area I feel the club did not get right in the summer. I think most fans know a fit Bamford very much has a part to play but he needed some competition and someone we could bring in to prevent us having to play him when he is half fit or when he is not firing.
I think Gnonto and Perkins will be good additions for us eventually but we really needed a proven senior striker and it is coming home to roost right now. The summer long fruitless chase of CDK didn't help and feel we could be in for a similar scenario with Gakpo in January when more realistic targets would be achievable.