What are Liverpool fans thoughts on him currently?
Now I didn't believe he was an all time great regardless of this recent form and thought he was usually reluctant to get himself dirty so as to pass blame from himself when a team scores against Liverpool.
But what is going on with him? He's never looked this poor. Liverpools defence as a whole have looked all over the shop for nearly a year now, and that can't be blamed just on Trent.
Chelsea in both cup finals could have racked up 10 goals over the two games, teams like Brighton, West Ham, Palace and all the teams this season seem to get in behind Liverpool's defence at will.
Now before hand I kind of excused it for the system, high line, Trent being high up, but the individual battles are being lost.
I said last season I thought Matip was your best CB, do you think VVD will ever get back to his best or has the injury affected him that we won't see him to those levels again?
Virgil Van Dijk
posted on 11/10/22
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 3 hours, 48 minutes ago
I’d still be cautious about shouting it too loudly but it looks like this great Liverpool team may have ran its course.
Too many 30+ year olds in there now who while still quality look like they’ve had their very best days. I’d still fancy Liverpool to be in the top 4 race at the very worst but the 90+ point days are likely behind them.
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Yes, Liverpool will still be second behind City but the gap will be bigger this season
Are they a great side... 1 league title. Have to defend your title to be a great side imo
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Process has a plausible argument but even Fergie had to rebuild after a few years of success. We have a number of 30+ players but also have a lot of very young players coming through. The same manager that built that team will build another and there's no one currently better than him at building teams. He took over a very very average team and within 7 years he's filled Liverpool with potential that he developed into world class players.
Defending a league titles doesn't make a team great. Winning the CL makes a team great. Even Fergie admitted that a great teams has won the CL at least 4 times.
Klopp' s Liverpool have gone from not qualifying for the CL 6 out of the 7 seasons before he joined to winning every trophy available at least once.
Liverpool have won it all in the last 5 years, a period during which teams like Chelsea and United have not even managed a single title challenge.
You look at all that and still think defending a title is what makes a great team? A bit funny that. Klopps Liverpool is certainly a great team.
City haven't won the CL and therefore are not a great team.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 5 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 34 minutes ago
In his time at Liverpool, he has won the lot
In all his full seasons, we’ve hit 90+ points
He was fighting it out with Messi for the Ballon D’or
He has been an ever present in the PL team of the season.
Named UCL player of the year
Named PFA player of the year
And astonishingly…. Still hasn’t lost a home game since signing.
No PL defender has reached his peak, even if his own form now is below standards.
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Done very well at LFC. Imagine how good he would have been at City: maybe the greatest
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Same goes for Salah and Mane right? They'd have been fighting it out for the GOAT status with Messi and Ronaldo if they'd played for City.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 5 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 34 minutes ago
In his time at Liverpool, he has won the lot
In all his full seasons, we’ve hit 90+ points
He was fighting it out with Messi for the Ballon D’or
He has been an ever present in the PL team of the season.
Named UCL player of the year
Named PFA player of the year
And astonishingly…. Still hasn’t lost a home game since signing.
No PL defender has reached his peak, even if his own form now is below standards.
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Done very well at LFC. Imagine how good he would have been at City: maybe the greatest
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Same goes for Salah and Mane right? They'd have been fighting it out for the GOAT status with Messi and Ronaldo if they'd played for City.
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I think VVD could have become a true great under Pep: up there with the real greats Baresi, Beckenbauer etc. Just my opinion
posted on 11/10/22
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 4 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by CFC: Quad stoppers (U20729)
posted 5 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 34 minutes ago
In his time at Liverpool, he has won the lot
In all his full seasons, we’ve hit 90+ points
He was fighting it out with Messi for the Ballon D’or
He has been an ever present in the PL team of the season.
Named UCL player of the year
Named PFA player of the year
And astonishingly…. Still hasn’t lost a home game since signing.
No PL defender has reached his peak, even if his own form now is below standards.
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Done very well at LFC. Imagine how good he would have been at City: maybe the greatest
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Same goes for Salah and Mane right? They'd have been fighting it out for the GOAT status with Messi and Ronaldo if they'd played for City.
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I think VVD could have become a true great under Pep: up there with the real greats Baresi, Beckenbauer etc. Just my opinion
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That's ridiculous. What could he have done for City? Their defence is the best in the league nearly every season. There is no room for improvement and VVD joining them would not have improved their defence. They would concede the same number of goals they do now on average.
In fact, VVD would risk being ignored and not given the platform to become as great as he's become at Liverpool. City always have a lot of options and there's little to no difference who plays for them.
Last few weeks they've had an unknown kid playing in defence and you can't even tell the difference.
posted on 11/10/22
Peak VVD is the best defender of the modern era in as far as English football is concerned.
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Serious Thorgen Kloppinson - No laughing matte... (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago
Peak VVD is the best defender of the modern era in as far as English football is concerned.
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Yes, but imagine how could he could have been under Pep.
Serial winner and Pep takes players to next level above Klopp.
He would have been a consistent champion. And mext level player like Iniesta Messi etc. Sadly we only one season of his best. Pep would have got multiple good seasons out of him: that is Pep's genius: relentlessly motivating stars
posted on 11/10/22
"Sadly we only one season of his best."
Huh
posted on 11/10/22
"Sadly we only had one season of his best."
posted on 11/10/22
It's still an incorrect statement
posted on 11/10/22
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 0... (U2720)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's still an incorrect statement
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