moan moan moan........

1 star from me too. This childish innuendo and name calling has to stop. It ruins a really good forum for genuine fans.

comment by Elsbels - El Jugador (U21658)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
comment by Wetherby White (U6810)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Threads like this, it’s just bullying

If you got something good to say about team, club, manager etc etc, just create your threads and get on with it.
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Strange how the definition of bullying has changed, is Kammy threatening Jonty in any way, stealing his lunch money perhaps or flushing his head in the toilet at morning break?
Bullying is defined as to seek to harm, intimidate, or coerce (someone perceived as vulnerable), lets get this straight, this is not bullying. I am not sure what it is, but bullying it aint.
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Nonsense. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

Jonty won’t really care, he’ll just shrug it off, but you definitely don’t have to be a venerable person to be on the end of bullying. Creating multiple accounts over and over again and ruining threads/creating this crap to try and belittle another poster is just really weird. There’s about 5/6 accounts out there all doing the same, Jonty even mentioned that it’s gone as far as someone messing with him personally outside of this forum.

Weird yes but bullying, really? How can it be bullying if Jonty cannot read it. Should we ask him if he feels he is being bullied. Surely one of the definitions is that the victim would identify themselves as such. The fact that, as you state, Jonty wouldn't care, kind of contradicts what you are saying.

By the way, venerable means accorded a great deal of respect, especially because of age, wisdom, or character.

I think you mean vulnerable.

Is that bullying?

jeez, the op is not aimed at 'anyone' particular person, it's at all who just bring others down with constant negativity.

anybody can read threads even though they have been filtered and some do you can read into it what you like.

Kammy what you see as constant negativity, others myself included, see as challenging the argument , challenging the status quo, questioning decisions with detailed constructive counter arguments, playing 'Devil's advocate' etc. - I think it is what I understand to generally be under the umbrella of debate.

Nobody on here as far as I can tell, claims to be right or wrong but pushes forward debate (usually) - that's what I thought this forum was for?

If I'm wrong then this site is not for me anymore and I'll leave ( I can hear the cheers !)

Lets keep it non personal, I believe it's far more productive and enjoyable that way.

comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
Kammy what you see as constant negativity, others myself included, see as challenging the argument , challenging the status quo, questioning decisions with detailed constructive counter arguments, playing 'Devil's advocate' etc. - I think it is what I understand to generally be under the umbrella of debate.

Nobody on here as far as I can tell, claims to be right or wrong but pushes forward debate (usually) - that's what I thought this forum was for?

If I'm wrong then this site is not for me anymore and I'll leave ( I can hear the cheers !)

Lets keep it non personal, I believe it's far more productive and enjoyable that way.
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Spot on.

comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Kammy what you see as constant negativity, others myself included, see as challenging the argument , challenging the status quo, questioning decisions with detailed constructive counter arguments, playing 'Devil's advocate' etc. - I think it is what I understand to generally be under the umbrella of debate.

Nobody on here as far as I can tell, claims to be right or wrong but pushes forward debate (usually) - that's what I thought this forum was for?

If I'm wrong then this site is not for me anymore and I'll leave ( I can hear the cheers !)

Lets keep it non personal, I believe it's far more productive and enjoyable that way.
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good point very well made

wish there was more of a positive approach, rather than knee jerk reactions to, lets say, a players bad day, he is not fit to wear the shirt yadda yadda, then wow what a game, it's the fickle approach most have makes my p!ss boil, we have wasted this & that, no team in historry gets anything right 1st time. 90% of players don't settle for so many reasons. too many vent anger / rage at the drop of a hat, some just want to be right, some just want to moan & it affects others who follow, like lemmings.

comment by kammys left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Kammy what you see as constant negativity, others myself included, see as challenging the argument , challenging the status quo, questioning decisions with detailed constructive counter arguments, playing 'Devil's advocate' etc. - I think it is what I understand to generally be under the umbrella of debate.

Nobody on here as far as I can tell, claims to be right or wrong but pushes forward debate (usually) - that's what I thought this forum was for?

If I'm wrong then this site is not for me anymore and I'll leave ( I can hear the cheers !)

Lets keep it non personal, I believe it's far more productive and enjoyable that way.
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good point very well made

wish there was more of a positive approach, rather than knee jerk reactions to, lets say, a players bad day, he is not fit to wear the shirt yadda yadda, then wow what a game, it's the fickle approach most have makes my p!ss boil, we have wasted this & that, no team in historry gets anything right 1st time. 90% of players don't settle for so many reasons. too many vent anger / rage at the drop of a hat, some just want to be right, some just want to moan & it affects others who follow, like lemmings.
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good point kammy, but stop moaning.

comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by kammys left foot (U21862)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by The Very Rev Wilko (U21072)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
Kammy what you see as constant negativity, others myself included, see as challenging the argument , challenging the status quo, questioning decisions with detailed constructive counter arguments, playing 'Devil's advocate' etc. - I think it is what I understand to generally be under the umbrella of debate.

Nobody on here as far as I can tell, claims to be right or wrong but pushes forward debate (usually) - that's what I thought this forum was for?

If I'm wrong then this site is not for me anymore and I'll leave ( I can hear the cheers !)

Lets keep it non personal, I believe it's far more productive and enjoyable that way.
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good point very well made

wish there was more of a positive approach, rather than knee jerk reactions to, lets say, a players bad day, he is not fit to wear the shirt yadda yadda, then wow what a game, it's the fickle approach most have makes my p!ss boil, we have wasted this & that, no team in historry gets anything right 1st time. 90% of players don't settle for so many reasons. too many vent anger / rage at the drop of a hat, some just want to be right, some just want to moan & it affects others who follow, like lemmings.
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good point kammy, but stop moaning.
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rude

i got 1 five star from the 1 star ranger....good lad