Best non top 6 XI

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 35 minutes ago
if they were a good team I'd have heard of at least one of their playersI know great players from the past.
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Don't need great players. Could just have been a great team.
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Yeah OK. How many great teams have no great players

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 32 minutes ago
The European Cup / Champions League can be divided into three distinct periods:

The Early Years:

Spanning the period of evolution of open, all-out attacking football using five forwards, through the invention of the original catenaccio, to the total football of the Dutch school. A time of pure football.

The Lost Years:

Inaugurated by Bayern Munich, a time where dire, speculative, time-wasting football takes hold of Europe, and becomes so boring that fans prefer to fight each other rather than watch the game.

The Golden Years:

After some encouraging early signs from Sacchi's Milan, football starts to get entertaining with the Bosman ruling which means English sides are no longer alone in being able to field as many foreigners as they wish, heralding advent of the Champions League.

Interestingly enough, in both of the periods of interest to actual football fans, Real Madrid have held the title of European Champions for longer than all of the football clubs in England combined.
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itsbronly, what are the dates of these periods?

Hi Wahldude,

Early: 1956-1973

Lost: 1974-1992

Golden: 1993-2022

So in both golden and early periods Chelsea are equal with massive super club Liverpool.

Interesting.

comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 35 minutes ago
if they were a good team I'd have heard of at least one of their playersI know great players from the past.
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Don't need great players. Could just have been a great team.
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Yeah OK. How many great teams have no great players
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I've never counted, but I imagine a few.

comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
if they were a good team I'd have heard of at least one of their playersI know great players from the past.
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They knocked out Hamburg who were back to back German champions and the holders.

They were obviously a decent side.

comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 48 minutes ago
comment by Dr Tobias Fünke (U1217)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht/ (U22857)
posted 35 minutes ago
if they were a good team I'd have heard of at least one of their playersI know great players from the past.
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Don't need great players. Could just have been a great team.
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Yeah OK. How many great teams have no great players
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I've never counted, but I imagine a few.
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Pick one that I would know of (post 90s)

Ulrich Stein
Uwe Hain
Jürgen Groh
Ditmar Jakobs
Holger Hieronymus
Bernd Wehmeyer
Manfred Kaltz
Dieter Brefort
Michael Schröder
Jimmy Hartwig
Wolfgang Rolff
Allan Hansen
Felix Magath
Thomas von Heesen
Holger Stein
Kai Steffen
Wolfram Wuttke
Jürgen Milewski
Dieter Schatzschneider

Again, don't recognise any of the names.

^Hamburg squad 83-84

They went unbeaten for 36 games which was the Bundesliga record for 30 years until Bayern Munich broke it in 2013.

Perhaps there's more to football than you not recognising players names.