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Thoughts from today

For me, this match more important than Liverpool game, home match v opposition we should be beating.

Summerville's quick reactions win us a penalty straight away and the ease of Rodrigo's finish makes Bamford's miss the other day look even worse.

But awful defending let's Bournemouth back in, Kristensen just completely dragged out of position.

Bournemouth attacked at will and really should have been 4-1 up by half time after more defensive errors see us go 2-1 down, but good work from Summerville and Meslier keep the score decent.

I've always said I've felt Summerville to be too lightweight, but he's proving me wrong, full of energy and getting better on the ball.

Adams looked very composed at this level, Roca again seemed very quiet and no surprise that he gets subbed and Aaronson has a step over here and there but not much more than that.

We go off at half time second best, to boos, looking completely shambolic at the back.

Some were saying these new signings were rock solid, but they were anything but in that first half.

Second half just gets worse going 3-1 down with ease, but this is a team who gave away 2 goal lead last week.

Gnonto has come on for Harrison, the same Harrison that Marsch was championing as should be playing for England.

Maybe he should be played on teh left if we want to see the best of Harrison.

Greenwood getting some rare minutes changes things, a goal from nowhere, a beautiful strike and then a great corner to allow Captain Cooper to equalise, one of the Championship players who was deemed to be holding us back, leads the way and now there is all to play for.

Gnonto gets a bit more involved here and there and then suddenly breaks, holds onto ball before beautifully times release of ball for Summerville to again break quickly, react quickly score a winner and received 9.9 for acrobatics after colliding with keeper.

Gelhardt comes on and does exactly what's needed, but Rodrigo clearly unhappy and was still so even after final whistle, and Gnonto also plays intelligently to run down some time.

What a turn around from a really poor first half.

Hopefully some real self belief instilled, but this should not mask the fact that we were really really poor against a really really average side, who at times looked like they had an extra man advantage over us.

I don't quite know what the solution is, but we can't be conceding 3 to the Bournemouth's of this league.

Huge credit to Summerville who's now scored in three matches in a row and more than justifying his starting place. Kristensen gets caught out of position far too easily and looks really word when defending corners. Adams really looking comfortable now and today I thought Struijk had probably his best game at left back.

Finally well done Greenwood, hardly ever gets a looking, sees other youngsters come in, so well done on playing huge part of amazing turnaround today.



posted on 6/11/22

Whilst I don’t disagree kristensen plays a big part in all 3 goals against, I can’t help but feel that Koch shared a lot of the blame too.

First goal whilst Bournemouth were moving the ball down the right hand side, Koch tracks back with Moore but ball watches and let’s Moore drop back behind him unmarked in the centre and Kristensen sees this then has to cover Moore.

Second goal, after Meslier blocks the shot, Koch looks up twice to see Billing coming forward to take Taveniers pass but just stands there instead of pushing out to block Billing.

3rd goal, Koch should have blocked the cross coming in from the left.

It seems to me that the defence basically ball watch far too much and don’t keep an eye on where attackers are moving to. That ain’t hard to fix, but they don’t seem to be able to.

posted on 6/11/22

Can't fault the character to snatch victory from the jaws of certain defeat.

My issue like everyone else, is the much lower league standard defending.

Agree the second goal could have been blocked by Koch or at least force Billing to side step instead of allowing a straight rocket into the top of the net.

The extreme high press is a real Achilles heel when you only have defenders like Rasmus who cannot sprint or even keep up with the Tavieners of this world when the returned ball is punted over the top. - very basic stuff.

Just to quote my comment yesterday on Highlands thread, the heroic youngsters saved Jesse yesterday, reminds me of Saka , Smith Rowe and Martinelli a couple seasons ago saving Arteta but Arteta in my opinion has more tactical acumen than Jesse. So leaves me feeling whether Jesse is a lucky Manager or not?

Its a massive gamble defending like this for the rest of the season and then hope to stay in this league.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 6/11/22

comment by salonika73 (U4688)
posted 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
Whilst I don’t disagree kristensen plays a big part in all 3 goals against, I can’t help but feel that Koch shared a lot of the blame too.

First goal whilst Bournemouth were moving the ball down the right hand side, Koch tracks back with Moore but ball watches and let’s Moore drop back behind him unmarked in the centre and Kristensen sees this then has to cover Moore.

Second goal, after Meslier blocks the shot, Koch looks up twice to see Billing coming forward to take Taveniers pass but just stands there instead of pushing out to block Billing.

3rd goal, Koch should have blocked the cross coming in from the left.

It seems to me that the defence basically ball watch far too much and don’t keep an eye on where attackers are moving to. That ain’t hard to fix, but they don’t seem to be able to.
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I thought about Koch during those goals and more I looked at them, more I felt he'd been let down by those around him.

Struijk gets completely bypassed (needed midfield cover), Cooper then gets dragged over to left to cover, Koch heads it out and could reasonably expect his left back to today that up but his left back is not there as he's come central.

Second goal, Kristensen letting Tavernier get better of him puts defence on standby, Koch has opposition player behind him and has no real time to get out and close down Billing who has been completely left by Roca.

third goal, Koch is pulled out of position because we have no left back, Kristensen literally sauntering back from their box so its left for Adams to try and prevent the goal.

I thinking starting with better discipline with our shape will helps.

posted on 6/11/22



Special mention again to Summerville who reacts quickly enough to get back and do enough to put Tavernier off and Meslier gets the plaudits for the save.

That goes in and we're not getting 3 points, so Summerville been doubly valuable yesterday.


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I cannot be the only one who went through a heart in mouth moment as Tavernier is moving at speed with Cree in pursuit thinking please don't bring him down.

posted on 6/11/22

Koch and Kristienssen both had weak first halves, no getting away from the fact that all three goals came from that side.

comment by Batty (U4664)

posted on 6/11/22

Everyone had poor first halves on balance outside
of Adams. IMO. I thought Rasmus showed great
character to come back in the second half with a
much improved performance. It was a 180 flip for all.

comment by Batty (U4664)

posted on 6/11/22

I watched the game again. When you watch Mes,
Pascal, Coops, Koch, Ras, in isolation they all do some
really good things. Mes obviously has been brilliant for
the most part. Cooper continues to work hard trying to
organize the back line and do his job (I hate this phrase
'Cooperisms' floating around, does not do his
performances justice).

But it does feel like those five are still not a cohesive
unit when we're trying to defend. Not sure how they
fix that? More time in training and matches?

posted on 6/11/22

Fundamentally the biggest issue with the defence is the complete inability to maintain shape and occupy sensible defensive positions.
The first goal we had 7 defenders in out box and they all got atttracted towards the ball. Rasmus had no option but no move to the man in the middle because 5 defenders were sucked to the crosser. Just poor positional sense
Second goal a long ball isolates 4 defenders v 5 forwards. Crazy!
Against Liverpool the shape was generally better. Yesterday it was poor and along with passive defending led into bournemouths hands. The increased aggression in the second half led by cooper helped to bring us back into the game.

The easiest way to discuss the poor shape is the fact that for the second home match in succession the away sides broke away and should have scored direct from OUR corner! Keeping 10 of our players in their third for a corner is suicidal and easily fixable after the Fulham game yet we do the same again the very next home game. Jesse has a month to sort this crap out otherwise come the new year and 4 tough games we will be back in the bottom 3.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 7/11/22

comment by Batty πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦ (U4664)
posted 1 day ago
I watched the game again. When you watch Mes,
Pascal, Coops, Koch, Ras, in isolation they all do some
really good things. Mes obviously has been brilliant for
the most part. Cooper continues to work hard trying to
organize the back line and do his job (I hate this phrase
'Cooperisms' floating around, does not do his
performances justice).

But it does feel like those five are still not a cohesive
unit when we're trying to defend. Not sure how they
fix that? More time in training and matches?
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Looking again. There first goal - If Koch heads it out of play and we get away with it. The one place he heads it is straight to their player who has been stupidly left free by Ramus getting pulled inside.

Second goal - Ramus caught out by the long ball but Mes should probably have put that out for a corner. He doesn’t and it goes straight back to their player. Coops had a go at him straight after the goal.

So both this goals are avoidable and individual mistakes cost us.

Watching the game live you could see how the back four were pulled into the centre many times, which gave Bournemouth so much space to play out wide.

We will always let goals in unless we learn to defend against pace and width.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 7/11/22

They're off to Europe for training during WC, let's hope that can make a difference to our defence on the restart.

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