Some "fans" on here (they know who they are) shouting from the rooftops that they will abandon Spurs if we become involved with QS, how morally right they are, and how corrupt and horrible you must be to not agree with them.
What is your view about AIA our chief sponsor?
A company that is deeply involved in our club and for a long time now.
They have been widely accused of silently agreeing with and assisting in both human rights abuses and climate abuse.
So why are you same fans still supporting Spurs and why aren't you so vocal about this?
I think you are a bunch of hypocrites, a bunch of bigots, and a bunch of xenophobes.
Or maybe you're just not as clever as you think you are and need to actually look at your ideology and mindset.
Our captain Harry Kane is a global ambassador for AIA too, so he's a hypocrite too.
Please give me your thoughts on this.
But maybe you wont because you have filtered me.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-aia-sponsor-china-human-rights-b1036398.html%3famp
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/nov/24/aia-sponsorship-is-stain-on-spurs-shirts-say-kick-out-coal-campaigners
https://www.aia.com/en/media-centre/press-releases/2023/aia-group-press-release-20230105
"Ethical" fans
posted on 13/1/23
comment by Genius of Nielsen (U9059)
posted 17 hours, 59 minutes ago
The problem with arguments like this is they are too black and white; a tad juvenile.
Morality is a sliding scale. It’s possible to be comfortable with own thing but not another because, in the beholders eyes, one is tolerable (not perfect) and one isn’t. A line is crossed. That’s not hypocrisy.
Hypocrisy would be taking two different stances over the same issue because one suits a narrative / agenda and the other doesnt.
A shirt sponsor is completely different to ownership.
A financial institution is different to a state.
Some people will be comfortable with one, or the other, both or neither.
Without commenting on my opinion on either AIA or Qatar, I have absolutely no issue with someone being ok with one and not the other.
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I dont think all BA in political science understands this (damning reflection of whatever educational institute he went to).
I personally never knew that about AIA. I think they are bad.
posted on 13/1/23
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
posted on 13/1/23
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
posted on 13/1/23
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
posted on 13/1/23
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
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Yes its when someone says why aren't you bothered about AIA and someone goes.. but what about ...
posted on 13/1/23
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
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Yes its when someone says why aren't you bothered about AIA and someone goes.. but what about ...
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Did Bales say he wasn't bothere by AIA?
posted on 13/1/23
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
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Yes its when someone says why aren't you bothered about AIA and someone goes.. but what about ...
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Did Bales say he wasn't bothere by AIA?
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I think the point is what actions have been taken. If people don't really care enough to do anything that's fine but just say that rather than adding the what about bit
posted on 13/1/23
Ann Shambles
posted on 13/1/23
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
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Yes its when someone says why aren't you bothered about AIA and someone goes.. but what about ...
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Did Bales say he wasn't bothere by AIA?
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I think the point is what actions have been taken. If people don't really care enough to do anything that's fine but just say that rather than adding the what about bit
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So you don't undestand what it means then?
posted on 13/1/23
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by sock (U22913)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Bãleš left boot (U22081)
posted 14 minutes ago
To be fair, Joe Lewis is up to dodgy chit in Argentina. I want him and Levy out but it should be someone better or what's the point?
I think generally, there's a level of acceptance than any really rich person or large corporation is going to have skeletons in the closet. If we went after AIA is there a company rich enough that hasn't done similar? Amazon shutting down unions, Nike and Adidas and their sweatshops, etc etc etc.
But it's not all slave labour, imprisoning g.ay people bad.
Anyway. https://lab.org.uk/tottenham-hotspur-owner-takes-over-ancestral-land-in-argentina/
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Aren't you just doing the whatabouttery you accused the poster of?
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I don't think you know what watabouttery is tbf THudd
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Yes its when someone says why aren't you bothered about AIA and someone goes.. but what about ...
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Did Bales say he wasn't bothere by AIA?
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I think the point is what actions have been taken. If people don't really care enough to do anything that's fine but just say that rather than adding the what about bit
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So you don't undestand what it means then?
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I do and that's a strawman you're making now