throwing the towel in right now. I don`t mean in not supporting Spurs, I will always do that, but I do mean that this season is effectively written off now.
This defence is totally out of its depth, and is absolutely killing Spurs right now, and has done for the past two or three seasons if the truth be told. I think they are right up there with the worse I have ever seen at Spurs in 63 odd seasons, and that included the relegation defence of the mid 1970s. Massive mistakes all across the back line, and if you add in that Lloris is now finished, then you have a massive problem, in that a massive spend is now needed.
Problem is 20 days into the transfer window, and not a single rumour of any central defender coming in. Players like Lloris, Dier, Davies are stealing a living now, and that they seem undroppable is even more annoying. Problem is when you have the likes of Tanganga, Sessignon as back ups, is it any wonder they don`t get dropped. This should have been sorted out three seasons back.
I seriously can see Conte walking. No manager in world football is going to get a tune out of these Spurs defenders as it stands. Last night four of them misjudged balls in the air, Dier and Davies first half, Perisic and Lenglet second half. Add in Lloris flapping about, and getting beat at his near post for the upteenth time, then you wonder just how long this is going to continue. Easily the worse set of defenders in the Prem, and that includes all the teams at the bottom. I don`t see their defenders making so many basic errors as the Spurs lot do.
I would have hoped that Spurs target the FA Cup, or dare I say the CL. But with this defence they have zero chance. It is a Championship defence playing for a Premiership side.
Not sure where Spurs go from here, but it is going to be a long painful build, because clearly there are so many players that are simply not good enough.
As for the rest of the team, Son also needs dropping, been atrocious all season, even though he had plenty of goodwill in the bank for previous seasons, I think that has now dried up.
Spending wise for Spurs to really get up to scratch has to be in the region of £350-£400 million, but they really do need to get rid of 15 odd players from the squad, who are either past it, not good enough, or never going to be good enough.
And I would bet a million pounds, Lloris, Dier, Davies and Son will all be starting agaisnt Fulham. I like Conte, but has he not the balls to drop any of them?
Other than that all good down at The Spurs.
COYS
I think even I am at the point of
posted on 20/1/23
im going to start having a melt down every time saints dont finish in the top 4 lol
priviledge
posted on 20/1/23
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 57 minutes ago
Spurs are a bang average club with a nice stadium.. been punching for a few years but will never amount to anything... 3/4th best team in London at best
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This is the only time in our history we haven’t been bigger than Man City, give us the same level of funding and we would be far bigger again.
City are a club where the manager keeps criticising the fans
posted on 20/1/23
comment by The Saint (U22900)
posted 32 minutes ago
im going to start having a melt down every time saints dont finish in the top 4 lol
priviledge
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The difference is that Saints have always been varying degrees of schitt. You have won a single major honour in your 100 plus year existence - Victorian side “the wanderers” won 5 in 24 years.
So of course your fans would be happy with where we are.
However I go on Saints web from time to time - within 6 weeks of his appointment you lot had a Nathan Jones out article and your fans are fuming at the moment - But Southampton have never been a solid Prem team so why the moaning?
posted on 20/1/23
Sandy, the only thing on offer this season for Spurs is the FA cup and we would need some very generous draws.
The league is finished for us, 7/8th at best I would imagine.
The CL - we might squeeze past Milan, but someone will give us an absolute hiding with that defence
The FA cup - that’s the only thing I can cling to and yet we’ve lost the last 8 Semis we have been in
posted on 20/1/23
comment by Striketeam7 - the smartest person you know - Bronze medal khunt 2022 - Buy..Bellingham and another mid 20s Thiago type...lets just call him "frank" (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 57 minutes ago
Spurs are a bang average club with a nice stadium.. been punching for a few years but will never amount to anything... 3/4th best team in London at best
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This is the only time in our history we haven’t been bigger than Man City, give us the same level of funding and we would be far bigger again.
City are a club where the manager keeps criticising the fans
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No matter how hard Abu Dhabi tries, City will always be a small club, still cant even fill out a stadium with all theyve been given on a platter
posted on 20/1/23
comment by Christ We Won (TENƎꓕ) (U17162)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Christ We Won (TENƎꓕ) (U17162)
posted 10 minutes ago
Think it'll be tough for Spurs for the next couple of seasons, gonna be a lot of players coming in and out of the club. May not be of the quality required to remain in the CL as I'm sure the cost of the new stadium is going to be factored into any future transfer spending
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I doubt Spurs will remain in the CL, but that would not be a problem, if they team can be rebuilt properly. All of the old guard now need moving on, and that includes Son and Kane.
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Yeah Spurs will be fine in the long run, a change of the guard and a few seasons out of the CL will allow for a rebuild and to reset expectations somewhat. I think during the period of transition Spurs need to get back to playing football the way Spurs traditionally play, which is entertaining attacking football. At the moment I think Contes way of playing doesn't help. Losing and playing rubbish football at the same time, there's nothing worse (we would know under Jose years)
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Losing wasn’t a problem under Mourinho.
He had (and still has if we exclude ETH) the second highest win percentage of any manager in United’s history, and the second lowest loss percentage.
The football was eye-stabbingly bad though.
posted on 20/1/23
comment by joeymancityz. (U4783)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Spurs are a bang average club with a nice stadium.. been punching for a few years but will never amount to anything... 3/4th best team in London at best
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Spurs are not in a great place. But I don't take lectures from City fans. You won a lottery to get success, and you cannot even sell out your ground.
posted on 20/1/23
Blimey, what happened to Mr Positive?
I do think Conte's tactics, demeanour and criticisms of club ambition are contributing to the defensive fragility. Obviously he's right about club ambition, we all know Levy's faults.
But when you set up with a five, you're saying your defence isn't good enough to play in a four. When you're non-committal to the rebuild project, you're setting a precedent to your squad. When you perpetually moan about club finances and the profile of player you want, you're effectively saying what you have isn't good enough.
Now he might be right about some of those things but what does that do to player confidence? Imagine playing in a defence where your manager thinks you're so bad, you need not only an extra man in there, but two holding to cover as well. He's sending messages to them that they're just not good enough. That might be accurate but the only way of knowing is by seeing how they get on with another manager that really breeds confidence.
If you think about it, when we get another manager in, they're likely to play in a four. That means, we'd only need one top class centre back to slot in alongside Romero and the current lot would be benched. We've yet to see Udogie in a full back role, he might be decent and obviously we need an able right back.
We're already conceding over 2 goals a game. The system isn't working and as far as I'm concerned, the mistakes are happening as a consequence of shattered confidence as much as a lack of ability.
I'd like to see how this squad looks with a manager that breeds confidence before throwing them all out. A lot of what we're seeing is down to Conte as much as it is the individuals in question.
posted on 20/1/23
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Blimey, what happened to Mr Positive?
I do think Conte's tactics, demeanour and criticisms of club ambition are contributing to the defensive fragility. Obviously he's right about club ambition, we all know Levy's faults.
But when you set up with a five, you're saying your defence isn't good enough to play in a four. When you're non-committal to the rebuild project, you're setting a precedent to your squad. When you perpetually moan about club finances and the profile of player you want, you're effectively saying what you have isn't good enough.
Now he might be right about some of those things but what does that do to player confidence? Imagine playing in a defence where your manager thinks you're so bad, you need not only an extra man in there, but two holding to cover as well. He's sending messages to them that they're just not good enough. That might be accurate but the only way of knowing is by seeing how they get on with another manager that really breeds confidence.
If you think about it, when we get another manager in, they're likely to play in a four. That means, we'd only need one top class centre back to slot in alongside Romero and the current lot would be benched. We've yet to see Udogie in a full back role, he might be decent and obviously we need an able right back.
We're already conceding over 2 goals a game. The system isn't working and as far as I'm concerned, the mistakes are happening as a consequence of shattered confidence as much as a lack of ability.
I'd like to see how this squad looks with a manager that breeds confidence before throwing them all out. A lot of what we're seeing is down to Conte as much as it is the individuals in question.
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Dier, Davies and even Lloris have been poor a long time before Conte turned up. They are the problem, not the manager.
I am sure Conte wants to upgrade them.
Do you think a new manager is seriously going to get the likes of Dier and Davies up to Prem level. Or Lloris gifting goals to the opposition like its Xmas. I don`t think so.
posted on 20/1/23
It's surprising just how much Spurs have spent in recent seasons. They have definitely backed managers but the issue is Levy seems to mess around and take forever to finalise a deal, whilst buying players managers don't seminars to want (Spence etc)
Spurs just haven't used the money well. It's been a pattern since the Bale/modric sales.
Levy bidding 12m for Tossard was just embarrassing. If u want a player and he is priced at a reasonable amount, I just don't see in what dimension Levy thought the bid would in any way benefit Spurs. Levy reputation has got to the point I suspect most clubs just hate dealing with him.
For as long as the manager's are levy puppets Spurs will continue to be unsuccessful on the pitch. Conte isn't a puppet and I can def see a storm brewing.