Brexit

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
I wouldn't trust a brexiteer to make a cup of tea. The data was there and they didn't want to hear it.


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This isn't exactly true. A lot of those who voted Brexit never saw the data.

Both Cameron and the Tory Remainers (of which there were plenty) and the Labour party arrogantly thought the vote would go to remain and thus didn't bother campaigning to remain with much gusto.

So a lot of what we all know now was not common knowledge to your average voter. They have said this on multiple occasions.
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As part of the Brexit anniversary coverage some of the old Vote Leave adverts were doing the rounds on social media.

The in/out NHS waiting lists adverts were shameful. Hard to believe so many people were duped by them.

https://youtu.be/hC8qO1nyYoM
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It isnt hard to believe at all. I see it first hand every day with Trump supporters. It isnt any different, I am sure, in the UK.

If you do not try to educate these morons then you have to accept the end results.

You have to keep hammering it in to these people that what they are voting for does not benefit them what so ever.

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Some of the MAGA stuff is brilliant. That Hilary Clinton is an alien, or Biden a robot (although from some of his public addresses, a not very well maintained robot!)

Some of the MAGA stuff is brilliant. That Hilary Clinton is an alien, or Biden a robot (although from some of his public addresses, a not very well maintained robot!)

………

The poorest States in the USA are mostly Republican States. The current Republican Party wants to scrap Social Security, Scrap Obamacare and Medicaid just to name the major things they want rid of.

They were upfront about this before the midterms.

And they still voted for this despite it affecting most of their lives for the worst.

The tories knew this wouldn't be good for the economy and went with it anyway. Hidden agendas.

comment by Glazers Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 14 minutes ago
The tories knew this wouldn't be good for the economy and went with it anyway. Hidden agendas.
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The Tories were divided over Europe. They have been ever since the Ted Heath days.

What the Tories were guilty of is delivering the Brexit Vote which was on their manifesto and not defending the Remain vote. Which is why Cameron resigned.

Maula Jatt hey? Hor kidha paaji

comment by The Duality of Van (Dijk) (U21747)
posted 2 minutes ago
Maula Jatt hey? Hor kidha paaji
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Oi bhalle bhalle.

Paaji ki haal ne?



*By the way the name was for the "legend of maula jatt" movie. I'm not sikh

Haha yeah I gave it a quick google and figured, wanted to say hi anyway

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
I wouldn't trust a brexiteer to make a cup of tea. The data was there and they didn't want to hear it.


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This isn't exactly true. A lot of those who voted Brexit never saw the data.

Both Cameron and the Tory Remainers (of which there were plenty) and the Labour party arrogantly thought the vote would go to remain and thus didn't bother campaigning to remain with much gusto.

So a lot of what we all know now was not common knowledge to your average voter. They have said this on multiple occasions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As part of the Brexit anniversary coverage some of the old Vote Leave adverts were doing the rounds on social media.

The in/out NHS waiting lists adverts were shameful. Hard to believe so many people were duped by them.

https://youtu.be/hC8qO1nyYoM
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It isnt hard to believe at all. I see it first hand every day with Trump supporters. It isnt any different, I am sure, in the UK.

If you do not try to educate these morons then you have to accept the end results.

You have to keep hammering it in to these people that what they are voting for does not benefit them what so ever.

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Plenty of information was available, too many favoured winning the argument by shouting "Project fear", etc. rather than understanding, or really getting involved in, the the argument. There was pages of it on the political thread on this site.

Funnily enough a direct comparison between Trump's campaign and the Leave campaign was often made back in 2016, only to be laughed off.

We really can't let people forget that outright lies won both elections if we're to avoid it in the future, and saying the information wasn't available to the "common man" back then is simply wrong. People need to take responsibility for their wilful ignorance, or we just go 'round again.

But, I don't hold out much hope - many of the same people now firmly believe the earth is flat now. We're doomed.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 23 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Who do you think you are kidding Mr.... (U3126)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 23 minutes ago
I wouldn't trust a brexiteer to make a cup of tea. The data was there and they didn't want to hear it.


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This isn't exactly true. A lot of those who voted Brexit never saw the data.

Both Cameron and the Tory Remainers (of which there were plenty) and the Labour party arrogantly thought the vote would go to remain and thus didn't bother campaigning to remain with much gusto.

So a lot of what we all know now was not common knowledge to your average voter. They have said this on multiple occasions.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
As part of the Brexit anniversary coverage some of the old Vote Leave adverts were doing the rounds on social media.

The in/out NHS waiting lists adverts were shameful. Hard to believe so many people were duped by them.

https://youtu.be/hC8qO1nyYoM
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It isnt hard to believe at all. I see it first hand every day with Trump supporters. It isnt any different, I am sure, in the UK.

If you do not try to educate these morons then you have to accept the end results.

You have to keep hammering it in to these people that what they are voting for does not benefit them what so ever.

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Plenty of information was available, too many favoured winning the argument by shouting "Project fear", etc. rather than understanding, or really getting involved in, the the argument. There was pages of it on the political thread on this site.

Funnily enough a direct comparison between Trump's campaign and the Leave campaign was often made back in 2016, only to be laughed off.

We really can't let people forget that outright lies won both elections if we're to avoid it in the future, and saying the information wasn't available to the "common man" back then is simply wrong. People need to take responsibility for their wilful ignorance, or we just go 'round again.

But, I don't hold out much hope - many of the same people now firmly believe the earth is flat now. We're doomed.
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Some of the online ads were amazing. From saving polar bears, to protecting feking tea

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-44966969

Cambridge Analytica was behind large parts of both VL and Trump campaigns. And in 2018 were told they were going to be investigated by the ICO. And then completely cleared out their offices in London before the ICO raided them. We'll never know who tipped them off but most believe was either Johnson or Gove.

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 2 hours, 16 minutes ago

We really can't let people forget that outright lies won both elections
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Three if you include 2014 indyref