Just following on from the City/Spurs/Arsenal/Liverpool meltdown yesterday. Now I am hearing things like 'the League Cup isn't a proper trophy' and 'the League Cup is worthless' when in actual fact it is a very prestigious trophy.
But what makes a trophy prestigious? For me I wish to look at three categories:
1) Year founded
2) Clubs that have lifted it
3) Iconic manager's who have lifted it and failed to lift it.
The Football League Cup was founded in 1960, making this it's 63rd year since inception. During that time, 22 different clubs have lifted that the trophy; this is far greater than the 7 clubs that have lifted the English Premier League for example which for the record was only founded in 1992. Likewise the Champions League, in terms of year created.
Since it was first lifted in 1961 by Aston Villa, the likes of Liverpool and City have gone on to secure this trophy 8 and 9 times each which currently sits at the record for Liverpool. It should be noted that these two clubs have fans who are the ones attempting to undermine our achievement yesterday. I am sure they celebrated long into the night the previous 8 and 9 occasions that they both lifted it however.
The most iconic managers in English football history have all lifted this trophy: Ferguson, Mourinho, Clough, Revie, Dalglish, Graham, Fagan, Guardiola and more. The list is endless of managerial greats who all took this competition seriously enough to crave winning it. The great Brian Clough took it seriously enough to win it a superb 4 times.
One name missing from the list of greats to win this piece of prestige silverware is none other than Arsenal icon Arsene Wenger, who failed on 3 different occasions to capture the trophy. Is Wenger perhaps the League Cup's biggest casualty? That may be the case, but such a great manager missing out on this prize again re-enforces the true prestige of it.
So people want to undermine us for winning a trophy that was founded decades before the likes of The Premier League and UEFA Champions League, not to mention The Europa League.
It seems to me that The League Cup is a find piece of silverware indeed
https://www.thesportsman.com/articles/25-years-on-the-league-cup-that-evaded-arsene-wenger-is-within-reach-for-arsenal#:~:text=For%20the%20great%20things%20that,tasted%20defeat%20on%20each%20occasion.
The Prestige Of The League Cup
posted on 27/2/23
If a trophy that is older than the EPL and UCL combined isn't prestigious enough for some of our own 'fans' then I suggest they go and support City.
Pathetic.
posted on 27/2/23
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 31 minutes ago
Same people who want to prove its significance when their team wins it are often the same people sh’tting all over it when a team they don’t like wins it. No credibility for posts like this unless you back it up.
I’ve always said it’s worth winning as it adds to the cabinet and breeds confidence as it’s a mid-season trophy but it’s nothing special or something to brag about IMO.
The constant name and branding changes and don’t help it’s prestige, makes it feel like one of those pre-season tournaments. It should just be called the League Cup and have some accompanying bonus attached to winning it, like how the Europa gets you into CL.
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See you're talking nonsense there. Since 1992 we've had:
Carling Premiership
Carling Premier League
The Premiership
Barclaycard Premiership
Barclays Premier League
posted on 27/2/23
Of course it’s a major trophy, the winner qualifies to play in Europe!
posted on 27/2/23
Did people other than Newcastle fans really have meltdowns over this? It's the league cup where the majority of teams play youth and second string XIs these days until the latter stages. It's why City have been so successful with it in recent years.
Look, it's still a trophy and credit to United and Ten Hag for winning it, they deserved it. He's done a fantastic job at changing the mood within the club and winning silverware in his first season will help with an impressive winning mentality that the current squad has right now. I wouldn't be surprised to see you lift the FA cup and/or Europa League either.
posted on 28/2/23
It's a proper cup just not as highly valued as the others. Tell any Newcastle fan it's not a cup, of they had won it. I'd say that argument wouldn't get very far 😂
posted on 28/2/23
comment by RED666👺 The Influencer (U6562)
posted 10 hours, 56 minutes ago
Of course it’s a major trophy, the winner qualifies to play in Europa Conference!
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True that, no English club has managed to even win that trophy. I hope you do the PL proud next season.
posted on 28/2/23
The scousers will be running scared on Sunday. Another habitual win against them for Erik.
posted on 28/2/23
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posted on 28/2/23
Liverpool aren’t favourites. We don’t want your nonsense on this thread this is for serious posters only!
posted on 28/2/23
It's a trophy I'd love our Club yo win again. It gets a winning mentality into players and might be the 1st trophy alot of them will/ever win so it means alot. It can also be a springboard to greater things including a trip into Europe.
It might be the smallest least important to some Clubs but to others could be the most important. Depends on how you look at it.
As a Villa fan, I love The League Cup and FA Cup.