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The positives of losing Kane

Okay, okay, stop screaming. I get it, it would be a disaster, but hear me out on this one.

Kane is unquestionably, certainly for me, our greatest ever player. Maybe not the most talented, but definitely the best, certainly of my era. However, his presence does define the way we've operated in recent years. Since Poch left in 2019 and Jose came in, we've spent a large portion of that time promising Kane good times to come. Have faith Harry, we're nearly there. Just one more year. What that has done is set in stone a habit of patching over problems or sticking a plaster over an infection in order to look for the quick fix. We've ultimately been unsuccessful in looking for the quick fix, be it chasing 'winning managers' or trying to change the way we operate by looking at ready made, older players which diametrically oppose club policy.

What this club really needs is a complete reset. We are at the end of a cycle and have been for some time but Kane's need for instant success has forced us to change the way we operate. We've lost sight of what's really needed for fear of losing a generational talent, however necessary that might be.

Losing Kane this summer, however horrible that might be, might prove to be the turning point for the club. A chance to turn the ship around and commit to a long term plan with faith in youth and wiser recruitment. A return to polishing and carving real diamonds instead of signing expensive fakes.

No project manager can turn around a club in six months, which is what we've been trying to do in order to prove to Kane we CAN win trophies. It feels like we're on a perpetual yearly cycle of hoping this will be the year rather than strategically planning progress year on year. Don't chase success immediately. Accept where you are and build slowly. Now some of the Conte disciples will argue he's building - why would I not have faith in him to steer the project? Because he's not building, he's dismantling. We're getting worse, not better. Plus he's not committed to the club.

Someone needs to have some honest words with Kane and say we're building a long term project, a project we'd love him to be a part of but one that might not glean immediate results. If he goes, he goes. We deal with it. The club is more important than any one player which is why changing the way we operate to keep him happy was never the right thing to do.

Rebuild from scratch. With him or without him.

posted on 6/3/23

All clubs lose their best players at some point. We won nothing even with Kane so in that aspect we have nothing to lose! Of course he will be missed, but it’s how we react. Unfortunately I’ve no faith in the management at this club to replace him, or plan for the future. It’s a mess really

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 6/3/23

comment by LukaBrasi COYS (U22178)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 20 seconds ago
Yes the club needs a reset. The squad has been too inadequate since Poch's final year, and that goes beyond management. Regardless of how defensive or suitable our recent managerial appointments are, we were still failing under non-defensive Poch towards the end, and have been unable to go on a winning run longer than 4 games now for about 4 years, under 4 different managers.

Whether Kane leaves or goes, the club needs to act as if he is going and pump it with the required quality. That doesn't mean we have to do a Chelsea, but we've got to at least address the weak areas in the squad. There is enough to do that it should be considered a reset.
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A proper reset will only happen once ENIC sell.

It has to be from top to bottom.

Never gonna happen soon.
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I know. What we need and what will happen are often 2 very different things when ENIC are here because most of the problems start with them and we know they aren't going anywhere.

All we can hope is that we are able to rebuild another good team during this transition period. We did it before with Bale/Modric/VDV, then again after that when we lost those players with Kane/Son/Dembele etc. And if we do then we have to make more of it than we did previously with those teams.

posted on 6/3/23

The likes of Kane aren’t the players you want to replace, it’s that tier below after they’ve had an exceptionally good season (like Dier after 15/16, Dele after 17/18 or Son last year). Particularly when they aren’t the most system fluid players. Even selling Bale made sense, it is just how you reinvest.

I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time, even if I personally wouldn’t have gone for them, we just need to keep investing in quality younger players and a manager who can get the best out of them.

posted on 6/3/23

I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time
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I have to disagree totally I thought Santini, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Santo and Conte were all poor appoinments. All made by Levy

posted on 6/3/23

Losing Kane would be a disaster iof epic proportions. If we’re prepared to let him go then we may as well
Look forward to mid table at best.

Someone needs to give ENIC a kick in the bum hole and say look your years of penny pinching have really screwed us splash the big bucks , if not do the decent thing and fook off and sell the club to an owner who’s not going to count every nickel and dime when it comes to buying world class .

posted on 6/3/23

comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time
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I have to disagree totally I thought Santini, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Santo and Conte were all poor appoinments. All made by Levy
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I meant, but didn’t specify, post Poch

posted on 6/3/23

comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time
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I have to disagree totally I thought Santini, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Santo and Conte were all poor appoinments. All made by Levy
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I meant, but didn’t specify, post Poch
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Nuno had to rate as bad as Christian Gross , probably both lonely blokes but about as much use as a nuns tiiits .

posted on 6/3/23

comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 3 hours, 2 minutes ago
I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time
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I have to disagree totally I thought Santini, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Santo and Conte were all poor appoinments. All made by Levy
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Jeez Grand, have we had any good managers, in yho? Wasn't Pochettino a Levy appointment?


























posted on 6/3/23

Kane must leave for his own good. Real Madrid is his best option.

posted on 6/3/23

comment by Edward Elizabeth Hitler. (U14393)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Edinspur (U1109)
posted 1 hour, 14 minutes ago
comment by grandspurs (U3810)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
I even think all the managerial appointments made sense at the time
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I have to disagree totally I thought Santini, Ramos, AVB, Mourinho, Santo and Conte were all poor appoinments. All made by Levy
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I meant, but didn’t specify, post Poch
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Nuno had to rate as bad as Christian Gross , probably both lonely blokes but about as much use as a nuns tiiits .
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I believe Nuno was brought in simply as an interim manager until a better one was available

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