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Time to unite Ireland?

With news that the horrific and medieval DUP have decided to scupper a half decent solution to the Brexit obstacles it would seem they’re not working in the best interest of the Norn Irish people. My mum and all her side of the family are proud Norn Iron unionists so would quite hate my suggestion but surely it’s only a matter of time before Ireland is one country again.

As Macca (not that one) once sung, give Ireland back to the Irish.

posted on 21/3/23

It will never happen and there’s no reason for it to happen. Not many in the North want to be part of the Republic and not many in the Republic care.

posted on 21/3/23

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 8 hours, 7 minutes ago
My 2 cents

You can talk reuniting once the UK sort out all the problems they have caused in the north. No thanks on broken goods. Also I do wonder how our already overstretched public services would cope with an influx of plus 1 million people

Also has been mentioned you need to placate unionists. At least half the folk there don’t want to be part of the ROI and my fear is a return to the bad old days only this time the bombs are on the streets of Dublin
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This.

posted on 21/3/23

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 3 hours, 7 minutes ago
I think Sunak should rip up the deal and leave it up to the EU to sort tbh.

Are they really going to build a wall between NIRE/ ROI? Let ROI and the EU sort it out.
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Somebody clearly doesn't understand how the movement of goods works around the world. It’s not about building a wall. The UK removed themselves from the EU. Therefore they don't benefit from the free movement of goods. Therefore goods moving to and from a non-EU country(NI) to and from an EU country(RoI) should have customs checks but that would mean a border and therefore against the Good Friday Agreement. The EU were more than helpful, instead of forcing this, in developing a protocol to get around this. It's not an EU/RoI problem. It's a UK problem of their own making.
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Is this the first time you’ve come across Busby? He’s a bit of a meat head when it comes to politics and that’s because he’s a snivelling little Tory cuuuunt

posted on 21/3/23

comment by Kobbie The King Mainoo (U10026)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
Yeah of course. Was just talking about the general sentiment among Welsh nationalists, seem more pragmatic. But then you could make the argument that they wouldn’t have the same ability to push through an independence movement like the radicals. It’s rare you get huge political change without the radicals really pushing the agenda.
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Sometimes we are a bit too pragmatic for our own good. Like I said earlier though. Our media is awful. Most of it is through a London lens. You just need to read the comments on the Wales Online Facebook posts to get that impression!

posted on 21/3/23

That’s generally a Britain wide issue. There’s long been a conscious effort to focus on London as a lens through which to see Britain, regional identities have long been seen as a threat to British nationalism and unity. But a consequence of that has been the reaction from certain sections of Britain that have felt ignored.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 21/3/23

Yes, the EU were keen to help. The last thing they wanted was U.K. in the FTA. The EU fear the FTA as a competing union and the U.K. joining as the biggest so far member might spur other swithering countries to go that route and undermine their political project.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 21/3/23

Seventeen out of 20 of the UK constituencies with the lowest life expectancy are in Scotland, according to new research findings branded "deplorable" by health campaigners.

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Ah bit levelling up, Barnett etc….

posted on 21/3/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 27 minutes ago
Yes, the EU were keen to help. The last thing they wanted was U.K. in the FTA. The EU fear the FTA as a competing union and the U.K. joining as the biggest so far member might spur other swithering countries to go that route and undermine their political project.
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This has nothing to do with it whatsoever. They had their own interests, ie. a member country bordering a non member country where customs checks are required in every other situation in Europe. Knowing the situation on the Island they agreed to find a way around it. I mean it's no real benefit to them to have NI remain in the single market. Our exports are minimal in comparison to other countries. This was the only way around it.

posted on 22/3/23

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 13 hours, 6 minutes ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 27 minutes ago
Yes, the EU were keen to help. The last thing they wanted was U.K. in the FTA. The EU fear the FTA as a competing union and the U.K. joining as the biggest so far member might spur other swithering countries to go that route and undermine their political project.
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This has nothing to do with it whatsoever. They had their own interests, ie. a member country bordering a non member country where customs checks are required in every other situation in Europe. Knowing the situation on the Island they agreed to find a way around it. I mean it's no real benefit to them to have NI remain in the single market. Our exports are minimal in comparison to other countries. This was the only way around it.
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Just to add, outside a customs territory, rules are enshrined by WTO (ie part of the global trading system) GATT - (General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade).

https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/region_e/regatt_e.htm

The EU, like any trade bloc adopt GATT into their customs arrangements with third countries outside their custom's territory.

As soon as Theresa May announced the policy to leave the EU's CU in 2016 anyone with a passing interest in trade policy was aware of the problems this would cause for NI. I said as much on here at the time.

posted on 22/3/23

Many said it but unfortunately the likes of DUP called it scaremongering in their clamour to take our country back. They then got what they voted for.

It seems to me they want a border on the island.

I mean what would possibly please them? No customs checks? The only way there can be no customs checks is if there is a border on the island. Seems to me it's just a tactic to stay out of Stormount as they no longer hold the top seat. Like spoilt children who whine for something, get it then whine because of the consequences. And people vote for these people? Ridiculous.

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