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Graeme Shinnie ban

PFA Scotland have backed Graeme Shinnie in the wake of his four game ban and insist players have “lost faith" in the disciplinary system.

Aberdeen were left raging after appealing Shinnie’s red card against Ross County last Friday night as Shinnie’s ban was increased for what was seen as a “frivolous appeal" from the PIttodrie club. They are now without one of their most experienced players until the penultimate game of the season as they look to keep distance between themselves and Hearts in the race for third place.

The fact is, he went for the ball, got it and hit the guy on the other side. Can't believe its a red in the first place. A four match ban for the appeal is just mental.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 22/4/23

comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/10450/graeme-shinnie-written-reasons.pdf

SFA publish their reasons for declining the appeal.
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There’s something amazingly unprofessional about them.
I’m not sure they’ve actually made a mistake here but somehow, it feels amateurish.

The pdf, the misplaced badge on the pages, the desperation to protect themselves… I dunno, pretty sure it wouldn’t be like this in the EPL, despite its obvious flaws.

I think mags is right. It’s a wee self preserving cult. I don’t buy into the Rangers cult stuff as I’d look terrible with tin foil on my head and it would leave zico with nothing to talk about. And I think we have a responsibility to look out for him. Like it it not.

But I’m pretty sure that entire organisation are feart for their jobs and would look after each other at any opportunity.

Everyone’s slated var down south, it’s corrected far more mistakes than it’s made.
Scotland just feels a bit secular, not convinced the camera stand argument is valid either. Only became an excuse when things went wrong.
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Aw ma England.

Aside from that I agree. Like politicians, the first thought is protection of the cult and not what is right even if it involves telling porkies. It will never change without an inspired leader at the very top and being gutted where necessary.

Clubs all say their ref get togethers are great but it all goes to fvck during the season.

posted on 22/4/23

comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 15 hours, 35 minutes ago
Who will take you penalties this week
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Hopefully not your English teacher, he’s clearly hopeless.
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Sexist.

posted on 22/4/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/10450/graeme-shinnie-written-reasons.pdf

SFA publish their reasons for declining the appeal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s something amazingly unprofessional about them.
I’m not sure they’ve actually made a mistake here but somehow, it feels amateurish.

The pdf, the misplaced badge on the pages, the desperation to protect themselves… I dunno, pretty sure it wouldn’t be like this in the EPL, despite its obvious flaws.

I think mags is right. It’s a wee self preserving cult. I don’t buy into the Rangers cult stuff as I’d look terrible with tin foil on my head and it would leave zico with nothing to talk about. And I think we have a responsibility to look out for him. Like it it not.

But I’m pretty sure that entire organisation are feart for their jobs and would look after each other at any opportunity.

Everyone’s slated var down south, it’s corrected far more mistakes than it’s made.
Scotland just feels a bit secular, not convinced the camera stand argument is valid either. Only became an excuse when things went wrong.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Aw ma England.

Aside from that I agree. Like politicians, the first thought is protection of the cult and not what is right even if it involves telling porkies. It will never change without an inspired leader at the very top and being gutted where necessary.

Clubs all say their ref get togethers are great but it all goes to fvck during the season.
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Hmmmm

There are subtle ways of admitting an incorrect decision has been arrived at without throwing your colleagues under the bus and still protecting them. It happens in every day business life.

A skill set clearly lacking in this case. And many others.

posted on 22/4/23

comment by Lauders - 55 time predictor champion (U9757)
posted 4 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by Changing my name from My POV - but not decided what to change it to yet (U10636)
posted 12 hours, 25 minutes ago
https://www.scottishfa.co.uk/media/10450/graeme-shinnie-written-reasons.pdf

SFA publish their reasons for declining the appeal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s something amazingly unprofessional about them.
I’m not sure they’ve actually made a mistake here but somehow, it feels amateurish.

The pdf, the misplaced badge on the pages, the desperation to protect themselves… I dunno, pretty sure it wouldn’t be like this in the EPL, despite its obvious flaws.

I think mags is right. It’s a wee self preserving cult. I don’t buy into the Rangers cult stuff as I’d look terrible with tin foil on my head and it would leave zico with nothing to talk about. And I think we have a responsibility to look out for him. Like it it not.

But I’m pretty sure that entire organisation are feart for their jobs and would look after each other at any opportunity.

Everyone’s slated var down south, it’s corrected far more mistakes than it’s made.
Scotland just feels a bit secular, not convinced the camera stand argument is valid either. Only became an excuse when things went wrong.
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Thanks for mention.

However, nothing I've posted with regard to facts or stats about Rangers' apparent 'luck' with penalties for and against, VAR, and red cards for opponents, has been false.

Tell me again why Rangers have the biggest penalty differential in World Football?

Not one Rangers fan has been able to answer that, I doubt even the finest minds would be able to find an answer..

The SFA are just self serving balloons.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 22/4/23

Somebody has to have the biggest differential. Small sample raw numbers mean very little other than 'worth looking deeper'.

posted on 22/4/23

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 3 minutes ago
Somebody has to have the biggest differential. Small sample raw numbers mean very little other than 'worth looking deeper'.
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It's usually the team with the most goals and the most league wins over a certain period.

All the big title winning clubs have a high differential, no surprise there.

The surprise is, Celtic don't have the highest in Scotland, Rangers is four times that of Celtics.

The opposition red card count is also an anomaly, as is the basketball playing, invisible defender/goalkeeper - with no penalties against.

It certainly merits worth looking deeper.

A level playing field would be nice.

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 23/4/23

So on the back of this....Jeggo got sent off for Hibs against St Johnstone yesterday.

Once again, a 50/50, Jeggo slides in, clearly wins the ball, the contact comes about when the St Johnstone player, who's again second to the ball, goes to kick it, and ends up whacking his shin off Jeggos leg due to Jeggo getting there first....and it's Jeggo who gets sent off

For me, it's not even a bloody foul by Jeggo, let alone a yellow......to give a red for that is utterly ridiculous

To my knowledge, the decision is made straight away by the referee on the pitch, there is no intervention from VAR, so I don't know what the ref thinks he saw

Games going to the dogs man...as said, it's a contact sport, a slide tackle is part of it...seems if players sliding at all make any sort of contact with a player, they are in trouble...it's bonkers

If that is appealed and not overturned.....can't be anything other than sheer stubbornness to admit they are making a proper cvnt of things

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 23/4/23

Highlights of the Hibs game to have a look for yourselves, about half way through

https://youtu.be/bXwlezqHgAM

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 23/4/23

Classic Zico here

The team that usually has the highest penalty differential is....."usually the team with the most goals and the most league wins over a certain period.".....so the fact Rangers aren't that team in Scotland at the minute, the notion is that Rangers are getting a helping hand

There's no chance that Rangers are perhaps not winning as many games as they should be, or should be scoring more goals than they are

We have dropped points in many games that we really shouldn't have done....we have scraped by teams by the odd goal on god knows how many occasions....we are conceeding the first goal in nearly every game we play......would say that all points to the reason why we are not the team with the most wins, most goals, current title holders

Of course......I can't for a second imagine you using a stat like this to backup your claim that this is "an anomaly" if Rangers were indeed the current title holders, and winning the most games scoring the most goals....pretty sure I know what you would say if that were the case......you'd be saying something about a penalty differential being a huge helping hand, and that being the reason why we are scoring the most goals, winning the most games, and winning the title

comment by St3vie (U11028)

posted on 23/4/23

Forgot to add...there is also the chance that with the most league goals scored and most league wins in the whole of Europe, perhaps Celtic are the cause of that "anomaly".....in that your attack is so potent, and you are winning so many games and dropping so few points, without getting a lot of penalties, that is why your trend is being bucked here?

There are tons of ways to look at your argument...think the simple point to be made is, perhaps the direct correlation that you believe there is between these two things simply doesn't exist...and the fact you say "usually" somewhat backs that theory up a little

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