Train Strikes

They haven’t had a pay rise for 4 years.How much has everything gone up since then? This is an aside though as it’s the RMT that is going on strike not the drivers union ASLEF. It’s the guards, station staff and cleaners.

Not surprised Dev has got it wrong in his OP though.
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This...when you bring cleaners, security etc into the convo, the numbers they have are low therefore don't fit the agenda that they're greedy...hence why we're lead to believe that it's the people earning good money with good pensions that are 'holding people to ransom'.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 6 minutes ago
They haven’t had a pay rise for 4 years.How much has everything gone up since then? This is an aside though as it’s the RMT that is going on strike not the drivers union ASLEF. It’s the guards, station staff and cleaners.

Not surprised Dev has got it wrong in his OP though.
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This...when you bring cleaners, security etc into the convo, the numbers they have are low therefore don't fit the agenda that they're greedy...hence why we're lead to believe that it's the people earning good money with good pensions that are 'holding people to ransom'.
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This happens every time they go an strike. You have to remind certain people, along with the Mail, Express et al that they’re getting angry at the wrong people.

It’s like Groundhog Day.

“This” is from what I read, incorrect.

RMT workers have had pay rises in the last four years. They’ve also received bonuses.

Prior to this they continually received wage increases far in excess of inflation over the previous 10 years. Their awards continue to outstrip almost any other sector and the current offer also reflects this.

Ginge

Drivers (ASLEF) haven’t had a pay rise for 4 years. Guards, station staff and cleaners (RMT) probably have. Can’t really call them greedy though

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 12 minutes ago
Ginge

Drivers (ASLEF) haven’t had a pay rise for 4 years. Guards, station staff and cleaners (RMT) probably have. Can’t really call them greedy though
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Ah, got you.

The articles I mentioned a percentage of staff and if it's guards, station staff and cleaners who haven't then yes; they fully deserve a decent increase.

Can't the unions separate them out as an especially deserving class of worker>

It's never seemed right to me that across the board wage increases should be applied in any event. I certainly haven't practiced it in my career.

Ignore all that.

Anyone who hasn't had an increase in 4 years is a deserving case for addressing, but the point about splitting away those most harshly treated should apply

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
Ignore all that.

Anyone who hasn't had an increase in 4 years is a deserving case for addressing, but the point about splitting away those most harshly treated should apply
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You talk as if they are not being offered anything, they are, for last year and this one.

SO to say no pay rise in 4 years is wrong becuase they got one in 2019. So its 3 years and are being given one back dated for last year, so its 2 years. So in reality they got nothing over the "pandemic years" which is much the same as many sectors .

Its all spin and when you look at their wages over 10 years they have gone, on average, from low £40s to nearly £60k for train drivers.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/64AE/production/_125547752_rail_worker_salary_chart_v2-nc.png.webp

Must be awful to have been forced into that job and have no other options at all. Remember the halcyon days when you had a choice.

comment by Cinciwolf----Old Trafford record attendance...... (U11551)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
Must be awful to have been forced into that job and have no other options at all. Remember the halcyon days when you had a choice.
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