..do we have any?
Transfers are normally quick in the klopp tenure, but not now...mac boy in but nothing else; to me...it seems that this delay is likely price haggling which is fine if its realistic, if its haggling because we are short of funds...well, welcome to 5th place boys!
Money....
posted on 27/6/23
comment by Neo (U9135)
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If we spend over £100m this summer I’ll be surprised.
I can see one more midfielder incoming for £30-35m and that will be it for the summer. That’s all we will be able to afford with our sell to buy owners and not many players we can sell this summer.
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I won't say we are sell to buy anymore. More a self sustainable model so what we make some of it will go on transfers. That some being way less than West Ham, Wolves, Forest etc but hey some people are happy with this model.
All down to Klopp miracles with a shoestring budget.
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Fair comment, I’ve already seen Pearce rolling out the Anfield road development excuse this week.
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He took his time
posted on 27/6/23
Cmon. These net spend tables are a bit irrelevant at times. We are so low as we havent needed to spend hundreds of millions every year because our recruitment for a 4 or 5 year period was absolutely nailed on. We built ourselves into a position where only 1 or 2 were needed to compliment the talent we had. At the same time you had other sides spoogin money up against a wall on dross year in year out, thats why they smash us in these net spend tables. We have almost been victims of our own success.
Last season the owners took a gamble I think. We came so close to winning the lot I reckon they thought we could maybe skate by this season with not too much required. They got that massively wrong. I will agree that this summer is probably the most scrutiny they have had on them when it comes to spending. But I expect them to spend and I think they will.
100-150m is my expectation. Theyre not daft, theyll know themselves if they dont back klopp to compete he'll leave .
posted on 27/6/23
comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
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Cmon. These net spend tables are a bit irrelevant at times. We are so low as we havent needed to spend hundreds of millions every year because our recruitment for a 4 or 5 year period was absolutely nailed on. We built ourselves into a position where only 1 or 2 were needed to compliment the talent we had. At the same time you had other sides spoogin money up against a wall on dross year in year out, thats why they smash us in these net spend tables. We have almost been victims of our own success.
Last season the owners took a gamble I think. We came so close to winning the lot I reckon they thought we could maybe skate by this season with not too much required. They got that massively wrong. I will agree that this summer is probably the most scrutiny they have had on them when it comes to spending. But I expect them to spend and I think they will.
100-150m is my expectation. Theyre not daft, theyll know themselves if they dont back klopp to compete he'll leave .
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I thunk last season was understandable having competed for four trophies, winning two and having so many midfielders on the books. However hindsight showed it was a mistake. With players leaving we need to make signings and we will, it's as simple as that.
posted on 27/6/23
comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
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comment by Mellor, Lovely Cushioned Header, FOR GERRARD, ... (U1859)
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Cmon. These net spend tables are a bit irrelevant at times. We are so low as we havent needed to spend hundreds of millions every year because our recruitment for a 4 or 5 year period was absolutely nailed on. We built ourselves into a position where only 1 or 2 were needed to compliment the talent we had. At the same time you had other sides spoogin money up against a wall on dross year in year out, thats why they smash us in these net spend tables. We have almost been victims of our own success.
Last season the owners took a gamble I think. We came so close to winning the lot I reckon they thought we could maybe skate by this season with not too much required. They got that massively wrong. I will agree that this summer is probably the most scrutiny they have had on them when it comes to spending. But I expect them to spend and I think they will.
100-150m is my expectation. Theyre not daft, theyll know themselves if they dont back klopp to compete he'll leave .
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I thunk last season was understandable having competed for four trophies, winning two and having so many midfielders on the books. However hindsight showed it was a mistake. With players leaving we need to make signings and we will, it's as simple as that.
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Yes I'd agree 100%.
posted on 27/6/23
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Liverpool were always going to be tight for funds with not many saleable assets.
The ones worth decent money need to be kept. I suspect they won't go much north of 100m spend which leaves them hamstrung in the market.
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Yeah this is nonsense. I'd imagine around a £150-£200m spend this summer, going by previous, FFP situation and current reports.
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We will see.
I hope they do because with a few quality additions they are the best bet for toppling City.
Would have thought there would be more concrete links by now if they were spending 200m
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We ain't serious. Just remember last time we spent big it required selling Coutinho. That lead to a CL win and then in the summer the squad was rewarded with the signing of Adrian.
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Just remember? You've been told this over and over again but refuse to remember...likely because it doesn't suit your cry baby wanting shiny new toys at all costs, wanting to be like City agenda. We spent £150m in the six months previous to selling Coutinho and that was 2017, when prices were lower than 2023 and tried to keep Coutinho until the end when he handed in a transfer request. We then of course spent the Coutinho money.
Yes for those with small minds like yourself, most of the transfer outlay overall under Klopp has been recouped but as has been stated to you on numerous occasions, it was not sell to buy, it was buy to improve the squad then sell unwanted players to recoup most of it. The only player we sold we didn't want to was Coutinho and we got an outstanding fee for him.
Again we need to make a big spend, as we have done in the past when the squad needed revamped and then over the coming seasons, as we have done in the past, recoup some of that outlay.
I don't know why we would change this proven approach. We will spend between £150-£200m. You will once again be proven incorrect, although it won't stop your tiny brain from following your agenda as it hasn't up to now.
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What a load of waffle as per usual
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This is why you don't remember and then continue to spout nonsense every transfer window. You don't want to remember as it doesn't suit your agenda and refuse to engage in anything that doesn't suit.
So we didn't spend £150m in the six months previous to the Coutinho sale on Salah, VVD, Ox and Robertson? We didn't spend around the same we got for Coutinho on Fabinho, Alisson, Shaqiri and Keita? We didn't then buy the likes of Thiago, Jota, Konate, Diaz and Gakpo, whilst selling unwanted players for high fees during this time like Awoniji, Wilson, Shaqiri, Grujic, Minimino, Neco Williams for around £70m?
We didn't sell the likes of Kent, Solanke, Ejaria, Ward, Stewart and Ibe, Brad Smith for around £60m. Are all these youth players included in your sell to buy agenda?
How many transfer windows are you gonna bury your head in the sand after you've been proven wrong, every time, forget what you were schooled on and then come back claiming the same nonsense? We must be on 20 now. Keep it going to 50 or until a state buys us and we're like your heroes City?
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I'm still trying to work out what you are trying to say (again)
A bit desperate to boast about imaginary schooling someone on a internet forum
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Yes because you're as thick as two short planks.
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posted on 28/6/23
all you need to do is pay attention to the narratives being sold to us via the usual outlets.
we are getting wall to wall look at the great youth options articles that mentions Bradley, morton, Chambers, doak etc constantly in the pa's 2 weeks
per above we get the anfield road end costs money stuff and how in some future world the revenue from that might eventually lead to a budget for transfers.
we also got treated to a rehash of klopp comments about timing of transfers and how he doesn't care if they come late in window
add it up folks
posted on 28/6/23
comment by moreinjuredthanowen (U9641)
posted 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
all you need to do is pay attention to the narratives being sold to us via the usual outlets.
we are getting wall to wall look at the great youth options articles that mentions Bradley, morton, Chambers, doak etc constantly in the pa's 2 weeks
per above we get the anfield road end costs money stuff and how in some future world the revenue from that might eventually lead to a budget for transfers.
we also got treated to a rehash of klopp comments about timing of transfers and how he doesn't care if they come late in window
add it up folks
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When I read comments like this I can see why some people believe in bullsheet like the great replacement and other ridiculous conspiracies. It's easier for them to believe that ridiculous view that there is some grand master plan behind the things they see, as opposed to common sense that natural factors are affecting things towards one or the other direction.
posted on 28/6/23
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that players we are after are playing in the U21 tournament at the moment (Kone & Thuram), so transfers are not happening yet.
Maybe, Mbappe really is happening.... (joke)
posted on 29/6/23
If people watched what goes on they'd have a fair idea where we are at.
Last 5 years net spend (there are 9 other clubs that have spend more, some by 4x now)
Liverpool: £-158.37m
23/24: £-36m
22/23: £-48.38m (5th)
21/22: £-49.1m (2nd)
20/21: £-57.14m (3rd)
19/20: £32.14m (Champions)
LFC are building anfield road end out of our own pockets. compare and contrast to Arsenal where their owner has in effect taken the stadium off them and with it the repayments. (good or bad I don't know but the outcome for funds is the same irrespective)
Not in the CL so a 50mil revenue drop.
So we can talk nike deal, record revenues and any other postivie commercial things we like but none have moved the needed on players in the last 5 years.
We buy a lot, we sell a lot but the net result is a fairly low spend.
Who are we selling next should be the question rather than who are we buying next.
None of this changes the actual facts that an uptick in the friendly outputs talking about youths and Klopp's comments on transfers being ok later.
the club have always and will always put out what narrative it wants out there. All clubs do.
I'm patiently awaiting a few sales now and will be hoping we can get at least one more player in on short term credit for klopp to have a chance at having a go at the season.
My view is still kelleher, phillips, bradley, morton and gomez are possibilities to be sold to fund some more needed buys.
The main hope for me is that the team can scroe more goals this seaosn was the effects of changes and injuries are hopefully i nthe past and we see 5/6 players really gel as our forward options.
Nunez, diaz, jota. all need big seasons. Gakpo needs to sacrifice himself doing the firmino role. salah needs to be salah. Elliott needs to play a bigger role for salah back up too.
I'm hopefully we will see improvement over last season just by these players coming together more
posted on 29/6/23
I get the impression the current top four will all work like crazy to shut us out of the CL for years to come. They all have far more spending power than we do. The CL gravy train is going to make it easier for them in the long run.
I’m not going to judge what we are going to do about it until the new season starts but it’s pretty obvious we need a rebuild with at least thee senior player added to the squad.