Madonna

To be fair about half the threads on here concern people not conforming to other people's ideals - footballers, politicians, administrators, activists, foreigners, peedos, entertainers, other posters....

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Anfield RAP (U22951)
posted 5 minutes ago
Still would.

Twice on Sunday's.
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downstairs probably resembles a badly packed kebab
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Chilli sauce or not

comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 7 minutes ago
OP, HOW DARE SHE, not conform to your ideals of aging and beauty!!

You must be new to the entertainment world?
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i asked the question before...do people do this out of personal vanity (they care what they look like for their own sake) or do they do it our of pressure, so they care more what others think about their appearance.

I would assume that famous folk in the public eye like Madonna care what other people think and that is what drives her to such actions - in which case, she is the one trying to conform.

For someone so famous, its funny how insecure they are, how they cannot be comfortable with who they are and in their own body. Cannot grow old gracefully and just bat off criticism with "i'm 64 ! WTF do you expect !! . Instead they think, Im 64, i need to look 40 again or people will pick up on my wrinkles/lines/bingowings etc

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 7 minutes ago
OP, HOW DARE SHE, not conform to your ideals of aging and beauty!!

You must be new to the entertainment world?
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i asked the question before...do people do this out of personal vanity (they care what they look like for their own sake) or do they do it our of pressure, so they care more what others think about their appearance.

I would assume that famous folk in the public eye like Madonna care what other people think and that is what drives her to such actions - in which case, she is the one trying to conform.

For someone so famous, its funny how insecure they are, how they cannot be comfortable with who they are and in their own body. Cannot grow old gracefully and just bat off criticism with "i'm 64 ! WTF do you expect !! . Instead they think, Im 64, i need to look 40 again or people will pick up on my wrinkles/lines/bingowings etc


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I don't think it's about conforming it's about trying desperately to hang on to attention.

and youth.

with women it's because youth and beauty give them alot of social power

and ofcourse most people once they have power are v unwillingly to give it up easily

they want to try and turn back the clock to look like they did when they were in peak fertility

comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 7 minutes ago
OP, HOW DARE SHE, not conform to your ideals of aging and beauty!!

You must be new to the entertainment world?
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i asked the question before...do people do this out of personal vanity (they care what they look like for their own sake) or do they do it our of pressure, so they care more what others think about their appearance.

I would assume that famous folk in the public eye like Madonna care what other people think and that is what drives her to such actions - in which case, she is the one trying to conform.

For someone so famous, its funny how insecure they are, how they cannot be comfortable with who they are and in their own body. Cannot grow old gracefully and just bat off criticism with "i'm 64 ! WTF do you expect !! . Instead they think, Im 64, i need to look 40 again or people will pick up on my wrinkles/lines/bingowings etc


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I don't think it's about conforming it's about trying desperately to hang on to attention.
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conforming to whatever maintains attention at that moment in time.

To me this sort of surgey doesnt make them look younger, more like it makes them look like an old person who has had work done....thats why younger folk (IMO) tend to look older because having work done is what i associate with an older person trying not to look old.

Naturally beautiful women will always stay beautiful.... others it's a case of touching up things but usually it goes too far

Never liked Madonna, and always found her music painful.

Got what she deserves. Self-inflicted too. Double whammy.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by TopForm (U15726)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 7 minutes ago
OP, HOW DARE SHE, not conform to your ideals of aging and beauty!!

You must be new to the entertainment world?
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i asked the question before...do people do this out of personal vanity (they care what they look like for their own sake) or do they do it our of pressure, so they care more what others think about their appearance.

I would assume that famous folk in the public eye like Madonna care what other people think and that is what drives her to such actions - in which case, she is the one trying to conform.

For someone so famous, its funny how insecure they are, how they cannot be comfortable with who they are and in their own body. Cannot grow old gracefully and just bat off criticism with "i'm 64 ! WTF do you expect !! . Instead they think, Im 64, i need to look 40 again or people will pick up on my wrinkles/lines/bingowings etc


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I don't think it's about conforming it's about trying desperately to hang on to attention.
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conforming to whatever maintains attention at that moment in time.

To me this sort of surgey doesnt make them look younger, more like it makes them look like an old person who has had work done....thats why younger folk (IMO) tend to look older because having work done is what i associate with an older person trying not to look old.


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I agree. But remember these celebrities are caught up with their celebrity persona in an industry that prizes youth and beauty, so loss of looks are a double whammy for them as well as the usual stuff that comes with aging that everyone else gets.