Lot of talk about a potential deal for Onana, with some fans very excited about such a a deal happening, so I just thought I'd ask those in the know, just how good he is. Below are some key attributes required from a GK, so it would be good if we could rate him on these.
Feel free to also rate DDG on these for comparison if it helps.
Shot stopping
Claiming high balls
Sweeping
Error rate
Kicking / passing
Availability
Communication
Experience
Is he any good?
posted on 30/6/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana has strong distribution skills. He regularly comes out of his box to help build-up play and is known for his confidence on the ball and range of passing. In Cameroon's opening 2022 World Cup game against Switzerland, Onana had more touches of the ball outside of the box (26) than any goalkeeper in a World Cup match since records began in 1966. He was described as resembling a "holding midfielder at times" in UEFA's Technical Observers' report on the 2022–23 Champions League.
So in that respect, he's literally the anti_DDG
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This makes it sound like back in '66 they were already recording number of touches by the 'keeper outside the box, when it seems more likely that they've kept similar stats for a few years now, and for the rest we're just relying on the fact that it was something they just didn't do much until fairly recently.
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Or they've just watched the games back, years later.
posted on 30/6/23
I do think we’d face less shots against us if our back four including the keeper as a unit lost the ball in our half less often, and we’re better at coping when being pressed. Most of the times DDG is called into action it’s because they’ve fcked up in a dangerous area.
A keeper the defence aren’t frightened of having to pass to, or knowing he’ll be there behind them to sweep would go a long way to helping us dominate the ‘lesser’ sides for longer periods.
posted on 30/6/23
If you can spare 16 minutes I'd check this out from A K Analysis
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nbkctv7RaV0&feature=share8
He combines stats with context around potential playing styles etc to talk through his strengths and weaknesses and how he might work in this United team.
He might not be super accurate or whatever but you'll get a far better analysis and account than you will on here.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana has strong distribution skills. He regularly comes out of his box to help build-up play and is known for his confidence on the ball and range of passing. In Cameroon's opening 2022 World Cup game against Switzerland, Onana had more touches of the ball outside of the box (26) than any goalkeeper in a World Cup match since records began in 1966. He was described as resembling a "holding midfielder at times" in UEFA's Technical Observers' report on the 2022–23 Champions League.
So in that respect, he's literally the anti_DDG
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This makes it sound like back in '66 they were already recording number of touches by the 'keeper outside the box, when it seems more likely that they've kept similar stats for a few years now, and for the rest we're just relying on the fact that it was something they just didn't do much until fairly recently.
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Or they've just watched the games back, years later.
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No, "since records began in 1966" makes it sound like they are going on stuff they started recording in 1966.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 3 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
comment by newWAYNEorder (U23010)
posted 38 minutes ago
Onana has strong distribution skills. He regularly comes out of his box to help build-up play and is known for his confidence on the ball and range of passing. In Cameroon's opening 2022 World Cup game against Switzerland, Onana had more touches of the ball outside of the box (26) than any goalkeeper in a World Cup match since records began in 1966. He was described as resembling a "holding midfielder at times" in UEFA's Technical Observers' report on the 2022–23 Champions League.
So in that respect, he's literally the anti_DDG
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This makes it sound like back in '66 they were already recording number of touches by the 'keeper outside the box, when it seems more likely that they've kept similar stats for a few years now, and for the rest we're just relying on the fact that it was something they just didn't do much until fairly recently.
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Or they've just watched the games back, years later.
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No, "since records began in 1966" makes it sound like they are going on stuff they started recording in 1966.
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You know what they didn’t have back then? Meaningless rubbish like Expected goals
posted on 30/6/23
comment by TheFoxOutsideTheBox (U20459)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
If you can spare 16 minutes I'd check this out from A K Analysis
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nbkctv7RaV0&feature=share8
He combines stats with context around potential playing styles etc to talk through his strengths and weaknesses and how he might work in this United team.
He might not be super accurate or whatever but you'll get a far better analysis and account than you will on here.
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No time for any context or that factual analysis malarkey, just need to know whether he’s absolute dross or a generational talent so here’s fine thank you very much.
posted on 30/6/23
Positives
Good on the ball
Good shot stopper
Knows ETH
£50M fee
Not great aerially
Does make mistakes
Misses games?
I think we might regret it if we signed him.
posted on 30/6/23
United confirm talks ongoing with DDG over new deal.
posted on 30/6/23
comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
posted 8 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 8 minutes ago
De Gea is staying though is he not? About 45 hours ago I was reliably informed on ja606 that he would be signing a new contract in the next 48 hours.
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Another one he's been wrong on this window it would appear
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Pardon?
posted on 30/6/23
YES.