Derby County 1 - 2 Wigan Athletic

Rob said he liked PW as a person and based on that, if he was a player, he would be inspired to run through the proverbial brick wall for him. But he did not rate the recruitment or tactics, especially the pushing of Bird further forward or the pushing of M-L into a more central role although it was extremely hard to tell exactly where M-L was supposed to be. He also questioned PW's matiness with his players and some of his public remarks which would have been better kept private which was a bit inconsistent based on his earlier comments.

Personally I think that all of this after just one game was over the top. Did he feel the same about PW at the end of last season?

After ten or more games we can fairly judge PW's management but I don't think we can ever question his recruitment for reasons I gave earlier.

comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 10 hours, 17 minutes ago
What utter boll** Spart. You just love to hate him don't you?
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Absolute truth Fin I'm sorry to say. If you think it isn't true show me the evidence. Our previous forays in to the third tier we finished higher than sixth in each season (4 in all) so didn't drop out of the top 50.

I don't hate PW at all. I didn't think it was worth sacking Liam Rosenoir and then dragging Warne from Rotherham. I am not a great fan of his style of football but he seems a decent bloke who talks a good game.

comment by Chicagoram (U22653)
posted 21 minutes ago
Rob said he liked PW as a person and based on that, if he was a player, he would be inspired to run through the proverbial brick wall for him. But he did not rate the recruitment or tactics, especially the pushing of Bird further forward or the pushing of M-L into a more central role although it was extremely hard to tell exactly where M-L was supposed to be. He also questioned PW's matiness with his players and some of his public remarks which would have been better kept private which was a bit inconsistent based on his earlier comments.

Personally I think that all of this after just one game was over the top. Did he feel the same about PW at the end of last season?

After ten or more games we can fairly judge PW's management but I don't think we can ever question his recruitment for reasons I gave earlier.
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Thanks Chicago, Im getting far too lazy & forgetful in my old age.
I think when Rob was questioning the recruitment, he was talking about strikers such as Sharp & Rhodes which he accepted were speculation (hopefully).
Agree about the 10 games, wasnt that what Rosenior got ?

It's difficult to criticise the recruitment without knowing what the current restrictions are. Nobody seems to know for sure whether we can pay a transfer fee for example. The market generally seems a bit slow and there hasn't been much loan action yet, not surprising as the Premiership has yet to start. Once the teams in the top division have decided which players are surplus to their first-team squads there will probably be a bit of a cascade of players to the lower levels.

It's frustrating that we have begun the season while still short of what most of us would consider a competitive squad but there probably isn't a great deal that can be done about it. It's daft of course to draw conclusions after a single game, either about individual players or the manager, but we can never resist.

I can 🙂

I can't believe that you're even discussing it

NB, is match day where's view?

comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 12 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 10 hours, 17 minutes ago
What utter boll** Spart. You just love to hate him don't you?
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Absolute truth Fin I'm sorry to say. If you think it isn't true show me the evidence. Our previous forays in to the third tier we finished higher than sixth in each season (4 in all) so didn't drop out of the top 50.

I don't hate PW at all. I didn't think it was worth sacking Liam Rosenoir and then dragging Warne from Rotherham. I am not a great fan of his style of football but he seems a decent bloke who talks a good game.
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I'm not disputing the numerical facts just the absolute boll** of the conclusion you have drawn from them in terms of managerial ability. We all know the unique situation Derby have been and are still in so it's utter nonsense to try to draw such conclusions to get a rise out of people on here (most of whom can well see beyond it).

comment by Uncle Tom (U1899)
posted about 3 hours ago
NB, is match day where's view?
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I’m here - you are quite right to mention this - I have been very lax

comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted about 5 hours ago
comment by Spart-Derby really are the best says red dog. (U4603)
posted 12 hours, 55 minutes ago
comment by FinlandRam (U3621)
posted 10 hours, 17 minutes ago
What utter boll** Spart. You just love to hate him don't you?
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Absolute truth Fin I'm sorry to say. If you think it isn't true show me the evidence. Our previous forays in to the third tier we finished higher than sixth in each season (4 in all) so didn't drop out of the top 50.

I don't hate PW at all. I didn't think it was worth sacking Liam Rosenoir and then dragging Warne from Rotherham. I am not a great fan of his style of football but he seems a decent bloke who talks a good game.
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I'm not disputing the numerical facts just the absolute boll** of the conclusion you have drawn from them in terms of managerial ability. We all know the unique situation Derby have been and are still in so it's utter nonsense to try to draw such conclusions to get a rise out of people on here (most of whom can well see beyond it).
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I just gave the facts. it's up to you to draw your own conclusions.