Paraag Marathe

… oh and if Paraag’s not very careful, he’ll be forever known as the biggest bullish!tter this side of the Mississippi.

Other than his stupid programme notes, I don’t have much against Kinnear. As far as I’m aware, he didn’t have much if any influence in recruitment or managers while Victor Orta was there.

comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 13 minutes ago
Other than his stupid programme notes, I don’t have much against Kinnear. As far as I’m aware, he didn’t have much if any influence in recruitment or managers while Victor Orta was there.
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But Kinnear’s the CEO. In line-management terms, Orta would have reported into him. Radz and Paraag roles would have been as non-executive Directors on that board (Paraag intimated as much in his presser - ‘It wasn’t me guv&rsquo?

comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 13 minutes ago
Other than his stupid programme notes, I don’t have much against Kinnear. As far as I’m aware, he didn’t have much if any influence in recruitment or managers while Victor Orta was there.
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But Kinnear’s the CEO. In line-management terms, Orta would have reported into him. Radz and Paraag roles would have been as non-executive Directors on that board (Paraag intimated as much in his presser - ‘It wasn’t me guv&rsquo?
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Even the owner wanted to sack Jesse Marsch twice and Orta told him not to, how was Kinnear going to have any say? It really sounded like Orta was given full power over recruitment.

We can judge Orta as he recruited the players and managers that were such a failure last season and continue to affect us now. But it’s harder to judge Kinnear, as fans we don’t see much of the impact of his job role. By all accounts, the 49ers were impressed by him in his job which is why they decided to keep him

comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Best fans - Leeds Carajo (U2196)
posted 13 minutes ago
Other than his stupid programme notes, I don’t have much against Kinnear. As far as I’m aware, he didn’t have much if any influence in recruitment or managers while Victor Orta was there.
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But Kinnear’s the CEO. In line-management terms, Orta would have reported into him. Radz and Paraag roles would have been as non-executive Directors on that board (Paraag intimated as much in his presser - ‘It wasn’t me guv&rsquo?
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Even the owner wanted to sack Jesse Marsch twice and Orta told him not to, how was Kinnear going to have any say? It really sounded like Orta was given full power over recruitment.

We can judge Orta as he recruited the players and managers that were such a failure last season and continue to affect us now. But it’s harder to judge Kinnear, as fans we don’t see much of the impact of his job role. By all accounts, the 49ers were impressed by him in his job which is why they decided to keep him
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"Even the owner wanted to sack Jesse Marsch twice and Orta told him not to, how was Kinnear going to have any say? It really sounded like Orta was given full power over recruitment. "

AR didnt have to do what Orta told him, very weak manager,ent from him.

I imagine all routes reported into AR, so Orta to AR not to Kinnear.

Kinnear was best of bad bunch, but still liked to think he was fount of football knowledge, had no expericen of relegation, so no direct experience of what happens when relegated so hard for him to raise a flag that X, Y or Z were issues.

49ers had to appoint people with relevant experience, not retain Kinnear and appoint a part investor in Plymouth to take Leeds to the summit.

I reckon that Kinnear is nothing but the "admin guy" to the owners.

You don't get rid of the admin guy as you'd then have to do the admin yourself.

comment by LeedsFanFor49Years (U6871)
posted 8 minutes ago
I reckon that Kinnear is nothing but the "admin guy" to the owners.

You don't get rid of the admin guy as you'd then have to do the admin yourself.
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Agreed

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 44 minutes ago

I imagine all routes reported into AR, so Orta to AR not to Kinnear.

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That would be unusual in terms of line management structure, but I accept the ‘dotted-line’ influence may have been as you’ve said. However, I think what the 3 of us are agreeing on is that Kinnear isn’t blameless (to a greater or lesser extent depending on one’s point of view) on how we ended up in this mess.

For me, the owners have demonstrated a huge amount of naivety in regards to their approach to this season. Its possible that for all their experience of running successful sports teams, members of the 49ers Enterprises just have nothing when it comes to dealing with relegation.

They seem to have stuck their head in the sand, pretending that they can just pick and choose which players they keep and which they sell. I look at how Southampton have approached player sales, and you see them setting clearly defined prices for their players, instead of flat-out saying someone isn't for sale. This is what Leeds should have been doing.

I'm not exonerating Gnonto for his actions, because they are toxic and unforgivable, but the owners have let it get to this point. There's time to turn it round. Not much, but it exists. Let's hope they manage it, and come September 1st we can all put our pitchforks in the closet until January.

comment by Lubo - Gyabi, you're gonna be the one tha... (U14008)
posted 6 minutes ago

… but the owners have let it get to this point. There's time to turn it round. Not much, but it exists. Let's hope they manage it, and come September 1st we can all put our pitchforks in the closet until January.
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Yep👏