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Arteta doing himself no favours at the min

This season has started with
-Strange tactics
-Insisting with Havertz when most can see he offers nothing
-Putting Partey at RB - everyone bar Arteta can see it doesn’t work
-Dropping Gabriel to fit in Havertz
-Picking Nketiah over Trossard

All can see the glaring issues but is Arteta too stubborn to change and insist on seeing his plan through?

Nketiah needs put back to the championship and Havertz needs sold. 2 games and it’s clear to see Havertz offers absolutely nothing. He’s lazy and his body language is awful

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)

posted on 21/8/23

We've dominated both games without being at our fluid best and with 2 or 3 key players missing. Good start.

I would recommend moving Odegaard to the left and havertz to the right. Havertz and Martinelli do not mesh well together.

posted on 21/8/23

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 minutes ago
We've dominated both games without being at our fluid best and with 2 or 3 key players missing. Good start.

I would recommend moving Odegaard to the left and havertz to the right. Havertz and Martinelli do not mesh well together.
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No. Thats the problem with playing Partey as an inverted back instead of zinchenko.

Zinchenko went to CM, Xhaka went wide left and Marti moved inside.

This season Rice is behind Havertz who is making more runs into the box, forcing Marti to stay wider.

If we go back zinny in the middle you can replicate what we did last season because Rice will move to behind Odegaard like Partey did last season.

Arteta is trying to force Partey and Rice into the same team and we are getting bottled up.

Zinny is an attacking cm and Partey is a dm. Rice is also a dm.

posted on 21/8/23

6 points out of 6 you utter clowns

posted on 21/8/23

comment by The One (U22189)
posted 15 minutes ago
6 points out of 6 you utter clowns
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You need to look deeper than that there are valid questions to ask, why were we so poor in the second half last week given our dominence up to that point. Why is Arteta just so obsessed in using Havertz in a position he cannot play which is affecting the whole balance of the team. There is always room for improvement and I think there are some good questions that need answering.

posted on 21/8/23

I really don't understand the Havertz hate tbh. He hasn't been outstanding, but neither have Odegaard and Martinelli. Not sure how you can blame him for less than clinical display by attackers. And Havertz hasn't missed any chances that Marti and Eddie missed tonight.

posted on 22/8/23

comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 9 minutes ago
I really don't understand the Havertz hate tbh. He hasn't been outstanding, but neither have Odegaard and Martinelli. Not sure how you can blame him for less than clinical display by attackers. And Havertz hasn't missed any chances that Marti and Eddie missed tonight.
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Havertz has been non existent and has gone missing since he’s come to this league. He’s not receiving the criticism due to the only two games with us, it’s because he’s been a waste of a shirt since he’s come to England.
Everyone can see it.

Seems like he’s the type that’ll happily let others take the pressure and responsibility. Usually you can tell if a player has it in him but with Havertz his attitude and body language are telling. Quicker we get rid and replace him the better

posted on 22/8/23

This is a fresh start for him and you almost have to forget what happened before. Will he succeed ? We'll see. Havertz will predominantly be used in midfield so you have to look at the other aspects as well with equal importance. He did well pressing and contributed in the dirty bits of the game that gave us so much possession and Marti should have scored from his defence splitting pass. Havertz wasn't great but he was far from poor.

posted on 22/8/23

Havertz should play CF, and hopefully Zinny will be fit to start vs Fulham and Partey can go back into MF

posted on 22/8/23

I thought Rice was excellent. Really wish we’d gotten him as he’s showing how playing for a more positive side gets the best out of him while also doing what he does well in protecting the defence.

posted on 22/8/23

https://www.football.london/arsenal-fc/fixtures-results/unseen-kai-havertz-moments-vs-27570667

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