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Thoughts from last night

Another year, another early cup exit, not much changes in that respect.

Every year when we do go out we have a dip in form, every year, lets hope it's different this year because we're not exactly on a high at the moment.

Can understand some changes, but it always seem a change too many and always some villains in the form of former players.

Personally I think cups are important to stay in, gives the ring players match time, keeps up momentum, which is an underrated thing, and brings in some revenue and buzz.

Rutter had a confidence boost Saturday, hope that this doesn't dent it.

Still a day or 2 of transfer window, let's hope there is more inbound business coming.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)
posted 12 minutes ago
Darlow? He should be ready already, no?

Bate, Gyabi, Hjelde. Yes, of course cup competitions are good for fringe player development, but promotion this season must take priority, no?

Dip in form? Hope not but yes, it always seems to happen after a cup exit. On this occasion, however, I'd argue that we weren't comprehensively beaten, like with the Crawley example.

And Light Brigade, do you always just tune out when you hear something you don't like?

Don't want to seem provocative but I just don't share your opinion on the importance of this game/competition.
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Everyone needs some match play, practice never the same.

We got a good manager who knows what it takes, fingers crossed for a bounce back v Sheff Weds.

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Jaz63 (U8369)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago

And Light Brigade, do you always just tune out when you hear something you don't like?

Don't want to seem provocative …
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👍😁

posted on 30/8/23

In fairness to Light, don't remember the fans calling it a 'Mickey Mouse Cup' back in '68 - our first major piece of silverware.

posted on 30/8/23

comment by The Light Brigade (U22847)
posted 4 hours, 3 minutes ago
Must admit, I had to tune out of the match day thread last night the moment people started with the ‘I’m not bothered about this cup’ comments. So short sighted it’s unbelievable.
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Absolutely spot on. The same folk would be clambering for tickets if we ever got near the final. Club should make a record of folks comments and when we finally get to the final they can put them bottom of the list.

Have any of these garbage cup exits ever helped us have a successful season after?

Have Man City’s Efl cup exploits of late crushed any of their seasons?

Good teams win football games.

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.
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certainly a lot of flip flopping re players and it happened with Orta too.

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.
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Darlow was poor in the penalties, I said a while back that Meslier has made some good saves but really what choice is there. I would prefer a better keeper.
All I say is that Charlie and Pascal will not be our starting CB pairing very often. They did OK last night.
I would still prefer a better keeper and we still haven't kept a clean sheet since Jonty was a lad.

posted on 30/8/23

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 2 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.
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certainly a lot of flip flopping re players and it happened with Orta too.
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All I have said on Orta was that like all directors of football his job was to identify players based on what a coach said they wanted, his job wasn't so much about scouting but putting data into a computer programme, we want such and such a player, with such and such skills and this is who is out there. Also hat he was unlikely to be solely responsible for the contracts that we ended up with last year. I felt these were much more likely to have come from corporate USA and have needed to have been agreed at a higher level than Orta.

What do you disagree with me on?

I think some of what Orta did was inspired Bielsa for example.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.
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Darlow was poor in the penalties, I said a while back that Meslier has made some good saves but really what choice is there. I would prefer a better keeper.
All I say is that Charlie and Pascal will not be our starting CB pairing very often. They did OK last night.
I would still prefer a better keeper and we still haven't kept a clean sheet since Jonty was a lad.

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Back in black and white then!

posted on 31/8/23

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 7 minutes ago
comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 3 hours, 41 minutes ago
comment by Elsbels - Man of colour (U21658)
posted 7 hours, 51 minutes ago
Don't think you read too much into last night Darlow miles off being good enough as he showed in the penalties, now hope Mes does stay, Shaks had a reasonable game but he is a utility player and we need better at right back, maybe the new lad or Bill, Charlie and Struijk iooked OK but will not be our starting CB pairing very often. Left back remains an issue through the whole club. We Looked fine in midfield but still need to recruit (the Japanese lad?). Up front was nothing like what it will look like full strength, Rutter again out of position, I like the lad.
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Change like the weather. You wanted Meslier out, now you want him in. Cresswell would be Leeds main defender this season and now the pairing with Struijk won’t be a fixture.
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Darlow was poor in the penalties, I said a while back that Meslier has made some good saves but really what choice is there. I would prefer a better keeper.
All I say is that Charlie and Pascal will not be our starting CB pairing very often. They did OK last night.
I would still prefer a better keeper and we still haven't kept a clean sheet since Jonty was a lad.

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Back in black and white then!
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