Israel Palestine

comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 6 minutes ago

I agree, I also believe we shouldn’t live in a world where decapitating babies, burning people alive, murdering people in their beds should be seen as a legitimate and justified response to oppression
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What do you think happens when an Israeli bomb falls? Babies, children and people are incinerated alive in their beds, schools or hospitals.

That is the oppression.

So what you're saying is those responding to such oppression should mind their manners and not do anything too extreme.

Got it.
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This is why it’s not worth “debating” with you, you have drawn your line in the sand and won’t listen to reason.

I don’t want Israeli or Palestinian children burned alive or decapitated - that BOTH sides have let it come to this due to their collective failure to communicate effectively is terrible.

Hopefully you have got it, I won’t be communicating with you anymore on anything non football
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Well if you don't want that to happen then your proposals and view of the conflict will not stop it from happening, will they? As I said, oppression always leads to violent uprising without fail.

You can't hope to solve a problem which you refuse to admit the core origin of, can you? Stop the oppression and the violent uprising will fade away with time as it will have no reason to exist.
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Of course mate

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 4 minutes ago
Striketeam

Wtf are you talking about clear cut good vs bad like russia and ukraine? Theres loads of western propaganda against russia to make us think like that.

Also, why would anyone want to stop someone saying “free palestine”. It is purely about stopping oppression and freeing a people. Very similar infact to freeing ukraine. But for some reason its ok for ukraine to fight back againsts an aggressor, but not for palestine. Hmmm
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Russia were the aggressor, they invaded Ukraine and annexed part of the country - what did the Ukrainians do wrong.

That war is far more clear cut than What is happening in Israel.

In Israel you have land given/taken/reclaimed to the Israeli people/occupiers - depending on your view and this is causing endless war, starting in biblical times.

It’s very difficult to pinpoint an aggressor - how far back in history do you want to go? Because both sides have a lot of blood on their hands - innocent blood, childrens blood
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Regardless of the historical context there is no need or justification in this day and age to treat other humans as sub-human, bust them from out of their homes, limit their human rights and freedoms, limit access to necessities, limit freedom of movement and access to justice, imprison and jail them indefinitely without trial etc etc etc.

All human beings deserve to be as free as you and me.
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I agree, I also believe we shouldn’t live in a world where decapitating babies, burning people alive, murdering people in their beds should be seen as a legitimate and justified response to oppression - like I have said numerous times, that was a horrendous misstep by Hamas that had cost Palestine a big chunk of support. Whether you like it or not, parading dead bodies through the streets of Gaza was horrific and repulsed large parts of the western public
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Typical “yh israel have done bad too BUT palestine have done x, y, z, a, b, c its their fault for the retaliation because d, e, f, g”. You’re trying to compare and imply there is an equal situation here. This aint a war, its genocide

comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 4 minutes ago
Striketeam

Wtf are you talking about clear cut good vs bad like russia and ukraine? Theres loads of western propaganda against russia to make us think like that.

Also, why would anyone want to stop someone saying “free palestine”. It is purely about stopping oppression and freeing a people. Very similar infact to freeing ukraine. But for some reason its ok for ukraine to fight back againsts an aggressor, but not for palestine. Hmmm
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Russia were the aggressor, they invaded Ukraine and annexed part of the country - what did the Ukrainians do wrong.

That war is far more clear cut than What is happening in Israel.

In Israel you have land given/taken/reclaimed to the Israeli people/occupiers - depending on your view and this is causing endless war, starting in biblical times.

It’s very difficult to pinpoint an aggressor - how far back in history do you want to go? Because both sides have a lot of blood on their hands - innocent blood, childrens blood
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Regardless of the historical context there is no need or justification in this day and age to treat other humans as sub-human, bust them from out of their homes, limit their human rights and freedoms, limit access to necessities, limit freedom of movement and access to justice, imprison and jail them indefinitely without trial etc etc etc.

All human beings deserve to be as free as you and me.
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I agree, I also believe we shouldn’t live in a world where decapitating babies, burning people alive, murdering people in their beds should be seen as a legitimate and justified response to oppression - like I have said numerous times, that was a horrendous misstep by Hamas that had cost Palestine a big chunk of support. Whether you like it or not, parading dead bodies through the streets of Gaza was horrific and repulsed large parts of the western public
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Typical “yh israel have done bad too BUT palestine have done x, y, z, a, b, c its their fault for the retaliation because d, e, f, g”. You’re trying to compare and imply there is an equal situation here. This aint a war, its genocide
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Both sides have done despicable things and the only side in am on is the dead childrens side - both Israeli and Palestinian.

What I find incomprehensible is that adults and so called leaders on both sides have failed so badly at a diplomatic level that both have resorted to murdering children - this is Middle Ages schitt, we have progressed as a society to understand there are far better ways.

Others will take their viewpoint and try to enforce it on others, but as far as I am concerned both sides are lying, both sides are shameful and all I want is no more murdered children because adults cannot resolve things

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 2 hours, 21 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 48 minutes ago
OP, what's your take on India kicking same se* marriage into touch?


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His opinion is irrelevant on a sports discussion board, which is his point.

That said, it is more than likely the same as any reasonable person.

I often find people who ask others views in such subjects are those who have a wholely unwarranted superiority complex and are trying to look down on someone whose opinions are not as great as theirs.
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So you have never asked anyone's views on any subject in your entire life? Gotcha.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
comment by K7-0ptimus Primal (U1282)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by BISS Bash BOSSED (U8366)
posted 4 minutes ago
Striketeam

Wtf are you talking about clear cut good vs bad like russia and ukraine? Theres loads of western propaganda against russia to make us think like that.

Also, why would anyone want to stop someone saying “free palestine”. It is purely about stopping oppression and freeing a people. Very similar infact to freeing ukraine. But for some reason its ok for ukraine to fight back againsts an aggressor, but not for palestine. Hmmm
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Russia were the aggressor, they invaded Ukraine and annexed part of the country - what did the Ukrainians do wrong.

That war is far more clear cut than What is happening in Israel.

In Israel you have land given/taken/reclaimed to the Israeli people/occupiers - depending on your view and this is causing endless war, starting in biblical times.

It’s very difficult to pinpoint an aggressor - how far back in history do you want to go? Because both sides have a lot of blood on their hands - innocent blood, childrens blood
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Regardless of the historical context there is no need or justification in this day and age to treat other humans as sub-human, bust them from out of their homes, limit their human rights and freedoms, limit access to necessities, limit freedom of movement and access to justice, imprison and jail them indefinitely without trial etc etc etc.

All human beings deserve to be as free as you and me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I agree, I also believe we shouldn’t live in a world where decapitating babies, burning people alive, murdering people in their beds should be seen as a legitimate and justified response to oppression - like I have said numerous times, that was a horrendous misstep by Hamas that had cost Palestine a big chunk of support. Whether you like it or not, parading dead bodies through the streets of Gaza was horrific and repulsed large parts of the western public
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Typical “yh israel have done bad too BUT palestine have done x, y, z, a, b, c its their fault for the retaliation because d, e, f, g”. You’re trying to compare and imply there is an equal situation here. This aint a war, its genocide
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Both sides have done despicable things and the only side in am on is the dead childrens side - both Israeli and Palestinian.

What I find incomprehensible is that adults and so called leaders on both sides have failed so badly at a diplomatic level that both have resorted to murdering children - this is Middle Ages schitt, we have progressed as a society to understand there are far better ways.

Others will take their viewpoint and try to enforce it on others, but as far as I am concerned both sides are lying, both sides are shameful and all I want is no more murdered children because adults cannot resolve things
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Right on strike.

e doesn't read them. He listens to them.

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 4 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 48 minutes ago
OP, what's your take on India kicking same se* marriage into touch?


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His opinion is irrelevant on a sports discussion board, which is his point.

That said, it is more than likely the same as any reasonable person.

I often find people who ask others views in such subjects are those who have a wholely unwarranted superiority complex and are trying to look down on someone whose opinions are not as great as theirs.
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Like you in your last paragraph?

Do feel sorry for Admin when something like this happens in the real world

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 2 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 4 hours, 27 minutes ago
comment by sandy, golden boot winner fa cup 1901 (U20567)
posted 48 minutes ago
OP, what's your take on India kicking same se* marriage into touch?


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His opinion is irrelevant on a sports discussion board, which is his point.

That said, it is more than likely the same as any reasonable person.

I often find people who ask others views in such subjects are those who have a wholely unwarranted superiority complex and are trying to look down on someone whose opinions are not as great as theirs.
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Like you in your last paragraph?
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Ouch.

Wish everyone would pack it in, just want to be able to enjoy a warm living room and a dinner that I didn’t have to finance.