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West Ham v Arsenal

Another League Cup thrown away on purpose.
31 years and counting

Absolutely Embarrassing

Disgraceful

As for Havertz - Why ?

Well played West Ham

comment by Leskov (U6375)

posted on 1/11/23

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 minutes ago
How does 65+3 = 100???
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Apparently we may have to buy him, depending on appearances.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12936962/david-raya-brentford-goalkeeper-moves-to-arsenal-on-initial-3m-loan-with-27m-option-to-buy

By playing him constantly, Arteta is going this way.

posted on 1/11/23

Yeah, unbeaten in the league and could qualify in the 4th CL game. Season BLOWN!!

posted on 1/11/23

comment by Leskov (U6375)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 minutes ago
How does 65+3 = 100???
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Apparently we may have to buy him, depending on appearances.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12936962/david-raya-brentford-goalkeeper-moves-to-arsenal-on-initial-3m-loan-with-27m-option-to-buy

By playing him constantly, Arteta is going this way.
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The claim was we spent £100m on Havertz and Raya last summer - not the future

posted on 1/11/23

Ivan Toney in Jan seems like a no brainer, can’t rely on Jesus, blokes always injured. Trossard doesn’t score enough and Havertz is faaacking pony

comment by Leskov (U6375)

posted on 1/11/23

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Leskov (U6375)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 24 minutes ago
How does 65+3 = 100???
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Apparently we may have to buy him, depending on appearances.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12936962/david-raya-brentford-goalkeeper-moves-to-arsenal-on-initial-3m-loan-with-27m-option-to-buy

By playing him constantly, Arteta is going this way.
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The claim was we spent £100m on Havertz and Raya last summer - not the future
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Right. But I wasn't aware of this clause.

posted on 2/11/23

65 million down the drain
Kai Havertz has done fack all again.

Eddie was in his real light.
Sheff Utd made him look world class

comment by 1950Boy (U3265)

posted on 2/11/23

Seen quite a few people criticising Ramsdale’s performance last night, i think thats a bit unfair the first goal was a foul , the second he was unsighted and the third was deflected. Yes he didn't look as assured as he usually does but thats down to Arteta who has needlessly destroyed his confidence by bringing in Raya.

posted on 2/11/23

comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 13 hours, 38 minutes ago
Yeah, unbeaten in the league and could qualify in the 4th CL game. Season BLOWN!!
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I think some of us can see the writing on the wall to allow us to make that prediction.
1) We lost Xhaka after molding him into that LCM role and did not replace him
2) Arteta brought in Havertz as a vanity project and spent a whopping 65m on him. Willian Mark II.
3) Arteta chose to destabilize the GK position by bringing in a player who looked good for Brentford but has looked shakiy in more games than not for Arsenal. We tend to forget at times that some players just cannot make the step up from mid table to top 4 level. Raya looks to be one of those and now Ramsdale looks shot of confidence. It's a matter of time before we suddenly look like we have 2 shaky keepers. This was not necessary and I doubt any Arsenal fan in the summer saw the GK position as one that needed upgrading.
4) Our style of play has changed for the worse. We are so sloooooow and ponderous and chances against any decent team are few and far between. Why is this? Arteta claims control but we still concede a fair few goals and don't score nearly as many.
5) Arteta is living off the FA cup win. He has been backed to the hilt and these are all his players. Yet all he has achieved is a great run to second place last year. He has thrown every cup game since that 2020 FA cup final and that is not acceptable.

I think we finish 2nd or 3rd this year with zero trophies. That IS a season blown however you look at it.

posted on 2/11/23

Last season gave Arteta far, far more credit than the FA Cup win.

No-one really puts much stock on domestic cups. If we finish 2nd and get close to City and have a good run to at least the quarters in the CL it will be seen as another step forward.

posted on 2/11/23

I think this game shows us that we are utterly dependent on Saliba defensively, as Kiwior, decent squad player though he is, just doesn't compliment Gabriel in the same way. Zinchenko has gone from being someone I enjoyed having on the team to a defensive liability, and both Jorginho and Havertz are busts which, at the cost we incurred (for Havertz anyway), must have left Chelsea rubbing their hands together. As with Silvestre and Luiz we bought castoffs from direct rivals and it is coming back to bite is. If Ramsdale goes to Chelsea, which the rags would have you believe, it will be the ultimate smack in the mouth.

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