As we approach the international break we come to realise it’s the last time we are under full Glazer ownership, as Jim comes on board to try and repair this club from top to bottom.
Anyone think we’ll see a different atmosphere at the club in a few weeks time or will it be more of the same old dross being served up? I wonder what the January window will hold for us and what personnel Jim will hire in place.
I’m not confident though, we all wanted the Glazers out and yet they’re still here like a goats fart. Hopefully I’m proved wrong and we have an upturn in our season.
Fix it Jim
posted on 11/11/23
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
My anxiety is that Jim will want to decide who's bought and sold. He loves the limelight and won't be content to be just in the background.
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That's the danger, that he's assumes control and thinks Utd are his version of a Footy sim!
My biggest fear is how a minority shareholder is given so much control of an organisation. It's bound to end in delays, the potential power struggle will adversely impact Eth.
posted on 11/11/23
comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
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comment by Roy's Keane (U11635)
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 🏴 (U2462)
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With being the PL's form team after today's win, and getting a new ownership structure, I expect the mood to be much better after the international break.
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Are you looking forward to after the international break
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Indifferent really.
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wales can still qualify can’t they?
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Amazingly they still can with two wins. Away at Armenia and at home to a Turkey side already through. Croatia would not qualify in that scenario.
RK did ask me about after in break which I'm indifferent to though.
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True, I was ignoring that, as I figured you’d be all in for wales to do the job. Reckon they can too, turkey have nothing to play for and you’ll want to teach Armenia a lesson. Hope they do it.
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If most of the big players are available I'm hopeful. Even a single goal victory would do me. After years of no hope even being in a situation where two wins guarantees qualification is great.
posted on 11/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Ruthlessness at the apex of our footballing operation ? 🥹. A lot of conjecture in terms of what Jim will do but let's be clear, he's a minority shareholder with the view, no guarantee, he'll force a majority ownership of the club in a few years. In the interim we are led to believe Jim will have overall control over football operations, well, I'll start believing the hype once we rid the squad of the bloat and start conforming to a set blueprint with a long term view that shapes the squad beyond tenure of the current manager. This can only be done with a capable, visionary DoF, we currently do not have one.
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Share of ownership doesn't matter. It's all in the control terms set out in the agreement. I'd expect that Sir Jim would have certain terms put in that give him control of the day-to-day, especially on the football side. On the flip side, he will also have very specific sporting metrics in place that would lose him control should he fail to hit them.
posted on 11/11/23
comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Ruthlessness at the apex of our footballing operation ? 🥹. A lot of conjecture in terms of what Jim will do but let's be clear, he's a minority shareholder with the view, no guarantee, he'll force a majority ownership of the club in a few years. In the interim we are led to believe Jim will have overall control over football operations, well, I'll start believing the hype once we rid the squad of the bloat and start conforming to a set blueprint with a long term view that shapes the squad beyond tenure of the current manager. This can only be done with a capable, visionary DoF, we currently do not have one.
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Share of ownership doesn't matter. It's all in the control terms set out in the agreement. I'd expect that Sir Jim would have certain terms put in that give him control of the day-to-day, especially on the football side. On the flip side, he will also have very specific sporting metrics in place that would lose him control should he fail to hit them.
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Unless you are privy to the terms of the agreement it's nothing more than speculation!
Overall control does matter, the ownership will be signing off the cheques afterall. How this works in reality will be intriguing. Until Jim wrestles full control I doubt things will work smoothly, happy to be proven wrong when the details become more apparent.
posted on 12/11/23
comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
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comment by Garnacho cheese (U5318)
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comment by Vengeance of Kungfu Bao Bun (U23079)
posted 3 hours, 17 minutes ago
Ruthlessness at the apex of our footballing operation ? 🥹. A lot of conjecture in terms of what Jim will do but let's be clear, he's a minority shareholder with the view, no guarantee, he'll force a majority ownership of the club in a few years. In the interim we are led to believe Jim will have overall control over football operations, well, I'll start believing the hype once we rid the squad of the bloat and start conforming to a set blueprint with a long term view that shapes the squad beyond tenure of the current manager. This can only be done with a capable, visionary DoF, we currently do not have one.
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Share of ownership doesn't matter. It's all in the control terms set out in the agreement. I'd expect that Sir Jim would have certain terms put in that give him control of the day-to-day, especially on the football side. On the flip side, he will also have very specific sporting metrics in place that would lose him control should he fail to hit them.
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Unless you are privy to the terms of the agreement it's nothing more than speculation!
Overall control does matter, the ownership will be signing off the cheques afterall. How this works in reality will be intriguing. Until Jim wrestles full control I doubt things will work smoothly, happy to be proven wrong when the details become more apparent.
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True, but there's no way he invests that much without control terms in place, nor would the board of Ineos sign off on the investment. If the rumors are true that the deal includes an investment schedule that will eventually give him 100%, the control terms may be even stronger, and there would be a transition agreement that would outline that. I suspect the board would sign off on the quarterly budget, as well as the transfer budget, but it won't be like now where every decision goes to the board and Glazers have to sign off. We will have a much better gov governance rather than Avram and Joels playing things who act on a whim and think Martial is the next Pele. The Day-to-day sporting decisions will be run by the Ineos sporting teams and the director of football. Only deals of a certain size and key hires would need board approval.
But we will see. Time has come for the club to sink or swim.
posted on 12/11/23
They currently have a combined share of 69%
posted on 12/11/23
Ruthlessness at the apex of our footballing operation ? 🥹. A lot of conjecture in terms of what Jim will do but let's be clear, he's a minority shareholder with the view, no guarantee, he'll force a majority ownership of the club in a few years. In the interim we are led to believe Jim will have overall control over football operations, well, I'll start believing the hype once we rid the squad of the bloat and start conforming to a set blueprint with a long term view that shapes the squad beyond tenure of the current manager. This can only be done with a capable, visionary DoF, we currently do not have one.
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Id say we have been very ruthless in our handling of DDG, Greenwood, Sancho and VDB.
Rid the squad of bloat? I don't think the squad is bloated. Maybe on the wings, but beyond that, I'd hardly say 2 LBs, 2RBs, 4 CBs, 5 Cms, 2 CFs, is bloated.
No long term view, despite introducing The young GK, Malacia, Mainoo, Antony, Hjojlund?
And how do you shape a squad beyond a managers tenures when the manager has a long term contract, sign players on 8 year deals?
posted on 12/11/23
Id say we have been very ruthless in our handling of DDG, Greenwood, Sancho
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Ddg was a fack up, Sancho we got it spot on, and greenwood the right choice in the end. They should have perma got rid of him though
posted on 12/11/23
comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
posted 9 minutes ago
Id say we have been very ruthless in our handling of DDG, Greenwood, Sancho
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Ddg was a fack up, Sancho we got it spot on, and greenwood the right choice in the end. They should have perma got rid of him though
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We refused to guarantee DDG would be No 1, hence him not signing the deal we offered. I'd say that was ruthless.
posted on 12/11/23
comment by U12215 (U22987)
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comment by >💲Baz tard🦍+❄️=? (U19119)
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Id say we have been very ruthless in our handling of DDG, Greenwood, Sancho
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Ddg was a fack up, Sancho we got it spot on, and greenwood the right choice in the end. They should have perma got rid of him though
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We refused to guarantee DDG would be No 1, hence him not signing the deal we offered. I'd say that was ruthless.
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Given how bad onana has been I’d say it was daft.