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Baffling.

Celtic are generally a good team with pretty good players so what happens to us when we go into Europe?
We have International quality players, either first pick or squad, we have all the facilities in Lennoxtown, we have sports scientists, video analysists, a supposed top level coach picking the team, so WTF is the problem?

Overall this season I think we did alright (except Madrid) in competing but not winning, it's baffling why we are so s**t in europe, even when we come up against teams we should be directly competing against like Lazio and Feyenoord.

posted on 30/11/23

comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 45 seconds ago
i thought ange at least looked like he was building a good squad.


see tbh, i'd take getting battered in europe every year just to be happy with what i was watching on a weekly basis, i was never as content watching celtic.

now back to this boring schite.
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That last part aimed at me 🤣 agree 100%. Entertainment, even if the last couple of months with Ange were like watching Rodgers does for 5 full season.
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He was probably getting bored with the league. Ange didn't set up to play counter acting football that's needed to be successful in Europe. Rodgers is the same. WGS and even Lennon was able to
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Can't disagree. Still think his direction would have brought results and would have been enjoyable to watch regardless. I want to enjoy watching football, not bored to death lke with Rodgers
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Rangers in Europe is far from boring. I'd rather win 2-0 than lose trying to score 4 and conceding 5
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I want to enjoy my team. Under Rodgers, that ix seldom the case
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I am the same. Which is why the enjoyment for me comes from Europe rather domestically. I don't like the expectations of winning trebles and going for 9 and 10 in a row anymore. It's boring. Beating teams in Europe is a way of having the credibility of a big team.

posted on 30/11/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Why the pallaver, aka Count Binface (a little more apathetic) (U10168)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by JFK (U8919)
posted 45 seconds ago
i thought ange at least looked like he was building a good squad.


see tbh, i'd take getting battered in europe every year just to be happy with what i was watching on a weekly basis, i was never as content watching celtic.

now back to this boring schite.
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That last part aimed at me 🤣 agree 100%. Entertainment, even if the last couple of months with Ange were like watching Rodgers does for 5 full season.
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He was probably getting bored with the league. Ange didn't set up to play counter acting football that's needed to be successful in Europe. Rodgers is the same. WGS and even Lennon was able to
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Can't disagree. Still think his direction would have brought results and would have been enjoyable to watch regardless. I want to enjoy watching football, not bored to death lke with Rodgers
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Rangers in Europe is far from boring. I'd rather win 2-0 than lose trying to score 4 and conceding 5
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I want to enjoy my team. Under Rodgers, that ix seldom the case
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I am the same. Which is why the enjoyment for me comes from Europe rather domestically. I don't like the expectations of winning trebles and going for 9 and 10 in a row anymore. It's boring. Beating teams in Europe is a way of having the credibility of a big team.
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Just annoys me big time how Celtic p!sses away success, year after year

posted on 30/11/23

Do you think if Rangers won the league but Celtic got to a European final that fans would be content with that and considered success? I'm not sure. Because of the financial dominance celtic currently have, there is an expectation that they have to win the league and a cup. I think it's actually holding Celtic back

posted on 30/11/23

When O'Neil and Walter got their teams to European finals neither club cared about the domestic side in the same manor.imo

posted on 30/11/23

comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
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That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
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So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
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not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
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When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
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yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
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We’ve played in the same competition in 5 of the last 6 years. The idea Celtic have played in the CL regularly is a nonsense, two years out of last six.

And whodunnit, you literally said ‘no cos’ when I asked the question of whether you could compare two teams playing in the same competition 5 out of six years. You can exclude this season then and have a fair comparison

We punch above our weight in Europe, Celtic the opposite, that’s clear.
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like I said you can use the last 6 years if you want.... Im using the info that uefa use and thats the last 5 years. im sure most could go through the entire history and pull out a time period that fits their point. Im using the period of time that most use and uefa use.

in that time 40% of the time celtic have been in the CL compared to our 20%. Id say almost half of the time can be described as regular, if you dont thats ok.


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If you use Uefa’s official points that is the last six really as the points for this season aren’t final…
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no, if you go onto their site they include this years as part of the last 5 years...

https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/club/#/yr/2024
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Very good. And that won’t matter for another 10 months till the next draw….

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 30/11/23

Everybody in Europe knows and comments on how Rangers play anti-football.


(Remember that was a thing once.)

posted on 30/11/23

comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve played in the same competition in 5 of the last 6 years. The idea Celtic have played in the CL regularly is a nonsense, two years out of last six.

And whodunnit, you literally said ‘no cos’ when I asked the question of whether you could compare two teams playing in the same competition 5 out of six years. You can exclude this season then and have a fair comparison

We punch above our weight in Europe, Celtic the opposite, that’s clear.
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like I said you can use the last 6 years if you want.... Im using the info that uefa use and thats the last 5 years. im sure most could go through the entire history and pull out a time period that fits their point. Im using the period of time that most use and uefa use.

in that time 40% of the time celtic have been in the CL compared to our 20%. Id say almost half of the time can be described as regular, if you dont thats ok.


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If you use Uefa’s official points that is the last six really as the points for this season aren’t final…
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How many points do you get for a loss and draw against some Cypriot minnows?

Booooooooooooooooooopo

posted on 1/12/23

comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 11 hours, 5 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 10 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 2 hours, 8 minutes ago
comment by whodunnit (U22710)
posted 1 hour, 39 minutes ago
comment by JukeboxJunkie (U10162)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by RenegadeOF (U9457)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by puyolsnohadahaircut (U6410)
posted 1 day ago
The other teams have internationally players except players like griezman etc are better than kyogo etc.

Rangers as well got shown up big style last time in champions league.

Sadly both scottish glasgow teams are europa league status.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That’s nonsense Celtic have been consistently better than us in the league for years, but we’ve consistently better than them in Europe. We’ve somehow stepped up while Celtic have done the opposite. Our record at home in Europe is outstanding.

Last year in CL was a horror show but daft to pull that as an example given a lot of the injuries we had for a start, and a lot of CL clubs that we’ve done well against in last few years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So it's daft to reference last season when you were guff, but it's ok to mention your run to the EL final?

Ok then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
not entirely, there is some merit to it but its not the outlier.

Uefa have us ranked as the 29th best team in europe, whilst celtic are 54th. Its wrong to use one season as our level when the previous 4 before it we have done very well in europe. I mean if you exclude last seasons european results then we were almost in the top 20 ranked clubs in europe which is very impressive given the leage we are in.

For eg there is no teams ranked above rangers out with the bigger leagues, no team from a lesser ranked european competition are ranked higher than rangers. we punch above our weight.

Its harder to compare the two teams fairly however given that you have been in champ league more than us.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When accounting for those rankings you have to consider one team is playing regular CL football and the other EL football, so have more chances at picking up coefficient points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
yes this is the point I have been making said it plenty of times, its RenegadeOF that is dismissing it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

We’ve played in the same competition in 5 of the last 6 years. The idea Celtic have played in the CL regularly is a nonsense, two years out of last six.

And whodunnit, you literally said ‘no cos’ when I asked the question of whether you could compare two teams playing in the same competition 5 out of six years. You can exclude this season then and have a fair comparison

We punch above our weight in Europe, Celtic the opposite, that’s clear.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
like I said you can use the last 6 years if you want.... Im using the info that uefa use and thats the last 5 years. im sure most could go through the entire history and pull out a time period that fits their point. Im using the period of time that most use and uefa use.

in that time 40% of the time celtic have been in the CL compared to our 20%. Id say almost half of the time can be described as regular, if you dont thats ok.


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If you use Uefa’s official points that is the last six really as the points for this season aren’t final…
----------------------------------------------------------------------
How many points do you get for a loss and draw against some Cypriot minnows?

Booooooooooooooooooopo
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slightly less than Celtic got in total from the groups so far.

but more than celtic got against Lazio .

posted on 1/12/23

Why don't you offer a "name change bet" whodumbtit?



deal? deal? deal?

posted on 1/12/23

comment by Mummy's Hairy Growler (U10045)
posted 16 hours, 47 minutes ago
When O'Neil and Walter got their teams to European finals neither club cared about the domestic side in the same manor.imo
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have to disagree mate, that year really stung.

to walk away with nothing that season was criminal.

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