Blatant penalty not given

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 18 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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Salah could have been through on goal though….

I think it's actually happened to us before, Cedric slipped and handled the ball against man united. No pen given

comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 51 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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Trying to break his fall?
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When you slip, do you cross your arms or something?

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 44 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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I get you point but it wouldn't be unlucky, it would be because of the rules, which Mets be honest are ridiculous. That shouldn't be a pen but under current laws and going by what we see on the pitch, it's a blatant pen and it boggles the mind how it wasn't given.
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The "rules" are exactly why it wasn't given, as the PGMOL explained after the match saying "'Odegaard's arm is moving towards the body and not the ball as he goes down." The rules are why they didn't rule the incident as deliberate, even though it "looked" like a penalty.

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 44 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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I get you point but it wouldn't be unlucky, it would be because of the rules, which Mets be honest are ridiculous. That shouldn't be a pen but under current laws and going by what we see on the pitch, it's a blatant pen and it boggles the mind how it wasn't given.
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The "rules" are exactly why it wasn't given, as the PGMOL explained after the match saying "'Odegaard's arm is moving towards the body and not the ball as he goes down." The rules are why they didn't rule the incident as deliberate, even though it "looked" like a penalty.
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Showing they got conned. He slipped but didn't fall over realised the ball was going to Mo so handled it away from him.

It's clear as day the slip wasn't bad enough for him to do that motion, he did it to stop Mo being in on goal. Should have been a red card too

Question is, why were so many of our players slipping?

comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 44 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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I get you point but it wouldn't be unlucky, it would be because of the rules, which Mets be honest are ridiculous. That shouldn't be a pen but under current laws and going by what we see on the pitch, it's a blatant pen and it boggles the mind how it wasn't given.
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The "rules" are exactly why it wasn't given, as the PGMOL explained after the match saying "'Odegaard's arm is moving towards the body and not the ball as he goes down." The rules are why they didn't rule the incident as deliberate, even though it "looked" like a penalty.
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Showing they got conned. He slipped but didn't fall over realised the ball was going to Mo so handled it away from him.

It's clear as day the slip wasn't bad enough for him to do that motion, he did it to stop Mo being in on goal. Should have been a red card too
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Sure. So "clear as day" that not just the VAR review, but the post-match PGMOL review saw if differently. It was certainly a very clumsy incident (and I'd have accepted the penalty decision), but to claim Odegaard "handled it away from" Salah just seems like your Liverpool lens talking. It was clearly inadvertent.

Had it beem given, it'd basically just have been a fluke penalty from nothing.

comment by Tu Meke (U3732)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
I think it's actually happened to us before, Cedric slipped and handled the ball against man united. No pen given
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Was different because Cedric's hand was in the floor IIRC

comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Sporty and Portly - LFC (U8531)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff John Brown - Arteta IN!!! (U7482)
posted 44 minutes ago
He blatantly handled, so if it were given, there'd have been no complaints. At the same time, we would have been unlucky to concede such a penalty because a player slipped and was trying to break his fall. It's not like he blocked a shot with it, or tripped a player through on goal.
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I get you point but it wouldn't be unlucky, it would be because of the rules, which Mets be honest are ridiculous. That shouldn't be a pen but under current laws and going by what we see on the pitch, it's a blatant pen and it boggles the mind how it wasn't given.
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The "rules" are exactly why it wasn't given, as the PGMOL explained after the match saying "'Odegaard's arm is moving towards the body and not the ball as he goes down." The rules are why they didn't rule the incident as deliberate, even though it "looked" like a penalty.
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Showing they got conned. He slipped but didn't fall over realised the ball was going to Mo so handled it away from him.

It's clear as day the slip wasn't bad enough for him to do that motion, he did it to stop Mo being in on goal. Should have been a red card too
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Sure. So "clear as day" that not just the VAR review, but the post-match PGMOL review saw if differently. It was certainly a very clumsy incident (and I'd have accepted the penalty decision), but to claim Odegaard "handled it away from" Salah just seems like your Liverpool lens talking. It was clearly inadvertent.
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Of course the PGMOL saw it differently.

The argument that it was not a penalty is almost from an alternate dimension. It's that ridiculous.