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“all anyone who is here really just wants to talk about football, a game we all supposedly love?”

This made me chuckle.

You’re giving people who use this forum waaaaay to much credit, not to mention ignoring that I’m the one who did want to discuss a football related subject, not debate the semantics of what the word ‘entitled’ means.

too much*

Make it personal

Oh, is that a big no no in your world?

So now we know where Winston’s morality lies.

It’s not about making it personal, it’s about having the decency to step back and say, maybe the way I interpreted a comment wasn’t the way it was meant to be taken.

That isn’t a bad thing. We all do it. You said as much yourself given the sometimes difficulty in truely understanding what a person means. You afforded TOOR no leg room in that regard. And despite being asked several days ago to come up with a quote, you’ve responded by saying “you will if you can be bothered”.

I’ll end this here, other than asking you again, on behalf of myself and indeed TOOR, please be bothered Winston. Find that quote, and then you can end this debate by winning it once and for all.

It’s not a big no. I just didn’t think it was necessary given the discussion.

I haven’t misinterpreted what TOOR said. He’s repeated his belief on this thread. The only bone of contention is the way I’ve described it apparently doesn’t match with his understanding of what he said, which is absurd, and has led to a needless debate about the semantics of a word.

For some reason you’ve got wound up by the whole thing, so yes, it’s best you leave it there.

For what it’s worth, this isn’t about the quote. It’s about the point TOOR was making when he made that comment.

If you were genuinely interested in discussing football then you’d have focused on that, instead of the quote.

Jesus Winston. If you want to believe I said players are entitled to go down, then fine. Go with that. The end.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 hours, 2 minutes ago
comment by RipleysCat (U1862)
posted 1 minute ago
Actually, it seems that you’re claiming TOOR DID say something (your words: “that he clearly did&rdquo.

His argument isn’t just based on the words he used meaning something slightly different. He has asked you to quote him saying what you have accused him of saying. As yet you haven’t done that. The one quote you did provide is ambiguous at best, and you have said that you will find more and “make him squirm”.


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If I can be bothered I will.

But you’re wrong to say it’s ambiguous. He’s basically repeated what I accused him of on here.

He’s justifying players diving if they think they’ve been fouled. That is the same as saying they’re entitled to dive if they think they’ve been fouled.
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How can him justifying it be the same as "they are entitled"....the ref will decide this with a card or not...because they aren't "entitled" whether they do it or not

comment by There'sOne7-0Reds (U1721)
posted 29 minutes ago
Jesus Winston. If you want to believe I said players are entitled to go down, then fine. Go with that. The end.
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Grow up TOOR.

JA606 in a nutshell.

Rather than debate the wider point about how throwing yourself to the floor is cheating, TOOR wants to distract from it by arguing that the word ‘entitled’ apparently means something different to ‘justified’.

Utterly pathetic.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 16 hours, 34 minutes ago
"They have highlighted they've been fouled"

And how do they they've been fouled?
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I think the truth, TOOR, is that you can’t answer this question without contradicting yourself.

You claim that players go down to highlight that they’ve been fouled, yet you tell me players aren’t deciding they’ve been fouled and going down.

You’ve got yourself in a right old muddle and done what you always do; blame me and run away, instead of just admitting your opinion is fundamentally flawed.

"There's nothing wrong with players diving if they think they've been fouled"

So you think they're entitled to dive if they think they've been fouled then?

"HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT WINSTON."