Arnie Slot

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 38 minutes ago
We do tend to get things right accidentally. When we got Poch it was because Van Gaal took the United job last minute. Ange only came in because Slot didn't want the job. The key is to always pick your second choice man.
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At the time I was told by someone 'in the game' that Levy had wanted Simeone until people that knew he spoke no English (Simeone that is ) took Levy aside and advised to get Poch for less than half the price.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
A better question might be I wonder what Poch/Levy thinks. I wouldn’t want Poch back these days he looks spent to me, massively overweight and seemingly unhappy. But the man was great for us in his time.

Would he want to come back to Spurs - I bet he would
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I still think he's a good manager. He's just taken on another poisoned chalice by the looks of it. They've had a lot of decent managers and not one has turned the ship around. The problems are much deeper than that. I don't blame Poch one bit.

Obviously there's no way I'd swap him now even though I was pushing for him in the summer. That was sentiment getting in the way. It probably would have been the wrong move. Not because he's a bad manager but he would have become tired of the way the club operates quicker than most. It's like getting back with an ex.There's no honeymoon period. The things that annoyed you before are definitely going to annoy you again. He'd probably have ruined his legacy.
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I wonder if he could have persuaded Kane to stay

comment by ambivalent (U22347)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 1 hour, 43 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
A better question might be I wonder what Poch/Levy thinks. I wouldn’t want Poch back these days he looks spent to me, massively overweight and seemingly unhappy. But the man was great for us in his time.

Would he want to come back to Spurs - I bet he would
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I still think he's a good manager. He's just taken on another poisoned chalice by the looks of it. They've had a lot of decent managers and not one has turned the ship around. The problems are much deeper than that. I don't blame Poch one bit.

Obviously there's no way I'd swap him now even though I was pushing for him in the summer. That was sentiment getting in the way. It probably would have been the wrong move. Not because he's a bad manager but he would have become tired of the way the club operates quicker than most. It's like getting back with an ex.There's no honeymoon period. The things that annoyed you before are definitely going to annoy you again. He'd probably have ruined his legacy.
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I wonder if he could have persuaded Kane to stay
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Unlikely I would say.

Not trying to be funny here, but even if he did pass up on a good opportunity in rejecting Spurs, it might not been seen as such a dream job elsewhere.

Feyenoord are a huge team in the Netherlands. 16x domestic champions, more than a dozen cup titles, first Dutch team to lift the European Cup, a couple of UEFA Cup/Europa Leagues under their belt...

The PL might be where the glamour and the money are, but if we're perfectly honest, what would his most realistic targets be with Spurs? Finishing in a CL place, maybe lifting a cup?

He already has all that so, yeah, while it's an attractive proposition, I doubt that having turned it down will have him tossing and turning in bed at night.

Ange is doing a good job, and I'm really pleased for Spurs fans that he's made such an immediate impact and that you're enjoying the football after having been put through the wringer with Nuno, Jose and Antonio, but I can't really imagine that your sitting 5th in the PL league will have Slot kicking himself at the missed opportunity.

comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone! LAJM! (U6426)
posted 15 hours, 18 minutes ago
Not trying to be funny here, but even if he did pass up on a good opportunity in rejecting Spurs, it might not been seen as such a dream job elsewhere.

Feyenoord are a huge team in the Netherlands. 16x domestic champions, more than a dozen cup titles, first Dutch team to lift the European Cup, a couple of UEFA Cup/Europa Leagues under their belt...

The PL might be where the glamour and the money are, but if we're perfectly honest, what would his most realistic targets be with Spurs? Finishing in a CL place, maybe lifting a cup?

He already has all that so, yeah, while it's an attractive proposition, I doubt that having turned it down will have him tossing and turning in bed at night.

Ange is doing a good job, and I'm really pleased for Spurs fans that he's made such an immediate impact and that you're enjoying the football after having been put through the wringer with Nuno, Jose and Antonio, but I can't really imagine that your sitting 5th in the PL league will have Slot kicking himself at the missed opportunity.
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Normally I wouldn't respond to a comment if it's nearly a day old but I can't sit idly by whilst this sort of shiiiit gets spouted unpunished.

Feyenoord are nothing compared to Spurs. They're an amoeba. We're a sleeping giant really, particularly when you take into account FFP rules becoming stricter, stadium, training ground etc. We're a seriously attractive proposition built for future success.

If Slot did turn us down, and it's by no means certain, then it will be down to the way Levy was operating at the time that will have put him off. It has nothing to do with the size and ambition of the club.

If you manage Feyenoord, trust me, you would even stop and consider an offer from a team in the bottom half of the Prem, let alone Spurs.

comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ding! Dong! Mourinho's gone!LAJM!(U6426)
posted 15 hours, 18 minutes ago
Not trying to be funny here, but even if he did pass up on a good opportunity in rejecting Spurs, it might not been seen as such a dream job elsewhere.

Feyenoord are a huge team in the Netherlands. 16x domestic champions, more than a dozen cup titles, first Dutch team to lift the European Cup, a couple of UEFA Cup/Europa Leagues under their belt...

The PL might be where the glamour and the money are, but if we're perfectly honest, what would his most realistic targets be with Spurs? Finishing in a CL place, maybe lifting a cup?

He already has all that so, yeah, while it's an attractive proposition, I doubt that having turned it down will have him tossing and turning in bed at night.

Ange is doing a good job, and I'm really pleased for Spurs fans that he's made such an immediate impact and that you're enjoying the football after having been put through the wringer with Nuno, Jose and Antonio, but I can't really imagine that your sitting 5th in the PL league will have Slot kicking himself at the missed opportunity.
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Normally I wouldn't respond to a comment if it's nearly a day old but I can't sit idly by whilst this sort of shiiiit gets spouted unpunished.

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Charming, more so considering I went out of my way to put my opinion across respectfully and to compliment Spurs on their current form.

I actually had you down as a fairly respectable poster, fridgeboy, but I'm afraid let yourself down here.

You might've started by doing a bit of homework on the club you're so readily dismissing.

Feyenoord are a historic European club with a European Cup to their name, which is more than you can say for yourselves. They're also former Intercontinental champions too.

They've also won European silverware this century and been in a European final more recently than you, and don't need to wipe the mold off their domestic honours either.

Their 51,000 all-seater stadium, De Kuip, is a historic European ground that's hosted a ton of major finals. Coincidentally, it also has a place in your own club's history, as it's where you lifted your first major European trophy.

So as far as standing in the game goes, Feyenoord are, at the very least, of a comparable status to Spurs.

You are currently a much wealthier club, but facilities aside, have not really have all that much recent success to show for it.

You also have a lot of very decent fans with a regard for the game of football and its history. You, going by your post above, do not seem to be one of them.

You've taken one sentence and ignored the rest, which outlined why I responded the way I did.

You might have complimented Ange on his start but threaded through the entire comment is an insistence that Spurs are nothing more than 5th place fodder and therefore unattractive to managers like Slot. You're looking at the history, which I understand, but you've only got to frame the differences between the Premier League and everyone else by looking at that fact that Julen Lopetegui went from Spain, Madrid, Sevilla and then Wolves for a measure of the difference in how the PL is viewed. If you were to apply history to a decision like this, then you'd assume Hamburg, Marseille or Bucharest are attractive propositions but they're not. They're relics really. I'm not downplaying the historical achievements of Feyenoord but honestly, it's like night and day compared to Spurs. You're clearly an intelligent poster so I'm surprised you can't see that.

Ok fridge.

The reason I took that one sentence and ignored the rest was because I felt it was out of order and uncalled for.

I wouldn't have had any problem whatsoever with your reply if it had been addressed in a similar tone to mine.

As well as stating my praise for Ange and saying I was happy for you guys because of the string of sheetonastick managers you'd been subjected to, I began my post by acknowledging that the Spurs job was a good opportunity.

Regarding the examples you provide in your latest post, there are differences in both case.

Lopetegui was sacked by Madrid only a few months into his tenure, and had also been sacked by Sevilla and was therefore unemployed when Wolves signed him.

Slot was the incumbent at Feyenoord, who were the reigning Dutch champions. There's a difference.

As for the clubs you compared them to, it's basically the European Cup they have in common. HSV have been languishing in the second division for a number of seasons and have not had any noteworthy success for many a year. FCSB were a dictator's plaything that went bust, had to be refounded and essentially became a shell inhabited by a new club (in a legal case that got dragged through the Romanian courts). OM are the only ones who you could really compare Feyenoord to, but they too are somewhat diminished nowadays and their European title was forever tainted by the Tapie corruption scandal.

Feyenoord are none of those things, and their success is current.

It is not an insult of any kind to point out Spurs' current standing. It might not be ideal, it might not be what you aspire it to be, and it might well turn out to have been a missed opportunity for Slot, but as things stand much of the attraction of Spurs is as I said, the money on offer, and also their being part of the Premier League, which as you pointed out, is a major part of the appeal.

By the way, I took the notion of Slot turning Spurs down from your own fans on this thread. I was merely borrowing from them, and not concocting a story of my own. If I misconstrued or misunderstood the situation, then my apologies.

Understood. Well put too. Christ, can you stick around on our board a bit longer? It's much nicer having a conversation with someone smart, informative and rational for a change. Have you met Sandy?

Yeah, yours is actually an interesting board in terms of variety.