Ivan Toney

i actually really rate Toney but I find it absolutely mad the way he's talked about as someone who would turn a team into title challengers, that ban was the best thing that ever happened to his reputation

comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
i actually really rate Toney but I find it absolutely mad the way he's talked about as someone who would turn a team into title challengers, that ban was the best thing that ever happened to his reputation
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Indeed. He has scored 32 PL goals in 2 seasons, which sounds good. But 11 of them were penalties. I think it just demonstrates the lack of quality no.9s that he is being elevated so highly.

Slightly above average striker who would be helpful to Arsenal's slim title hopes.

comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Christopher huffing glou (U20930)
posted 9 minutes ago
i actually really rate Toney but I find it absolutely mad the way he's talked about as someone who would turn a team into title challengers, that ban was the best thing that ever happened to his reputation
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Indeed. He has scored 32 PL goals in 2 seasons, which sounds good. But 11 of them were penalties. I think it just demonstrates the lack of quality no.9s that he is being elevated so highly.
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Worth mentioning that his all-round playmaking, hold-up play, etc. were outstanding too. At United or Chelsea, for instance, if he brought that form with him, I'd back him to not just score goals, but contribute to an uptick in the goals the rest of the attacking players contribute.

Toney is indeed a better footballer than people give him credit for. I think playing for Brentford doesnt help his image. It kinda like playing for the Wimbledon Crazy Gang back in the day. A move to a big club could show us what he really is.

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
The FFP squeeze seems to make it unlikely he'll leave before the summer, so a lot depends how he performs in the second half of the season. Not only in terms of whether the break from football and the personal impact from having his name dragged through the mud had any impact on his levels. There's also got to be some question whether his performance levels will be sustained over a period of time. That's not to deny the fact that he was a really classy as well as prolific striker the season before last. But you do see some players whose careers hit a purple patch that's quite brief. E.g. Diego Milito had a fairly unremarkable career, scoring well in the Spanish second tier then in his mid-20s getting a move to Zaragoza in the top tier, and he basically had three consecutive seasons when he was on fire in his late 20s: final season at Zaragoza, his one year at Bologna, and his glorious first season at Inter. A top club would be glad to part with £80 million for him if they could guarantee three seasons worth of excellence, but they'd want to be sure he isn't close to the end of that purple patch.
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Tbf Milito scored double figures in six out of seven seasons across Zaragoza, Genoa and Inter, with four of those being 20+. He got nine in the eighth season, despite injury issues. That’s more than a purple patch, that was performing at consistent peak level for a striker. He was one of top strikers in Europe for a good number of years. If Toney can maintain a similar level to that he’ll have done very well.

I see he’s said he’s available for their 2-2 draw with Forest tomorrow 😏

Just seen that at the top 😱

Brentford aren’t getting many penalties this season so won’t be surprised if all 4 strikers listed in the OP outscore him

He’s a good striker but pens have really boosted his stats. Has he even got 20 from play in his 2 pl seasons?