Co Efficient Watch Update

Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 13 minutes ago
Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.
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You gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite?

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Peks Targaryen - zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor ("a dragon is not a slave"(U6618)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Villa getting KOed and easily by a Greek team is shocking for a club lying 4th in the supposedly vastly superior Premier League
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Olympiacos managed by another manager from the excellent Basque stable.
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Olympiacos conversion rate over the 2 legs was insane - they had less than half the shots Villa did over the 2 legs only to score 6 compared to Villa’s 2. El Kaabi scored 5 of the 6.

It happens. Douglas Luiz had a shocking tie as well - conceding 1 penalty and missing another.

For those that like to whack the Prem - it produced 2 of last years 3 euro winners. 60% of CL finalists in the last 5 years have been English, only Real Madrid can hold a candle to that.

What happened this year is Man United and Newcastle were atrocious.

I will happily bet with anyone and everyone on her that England secures an additional CL spot next season. You all like to try and belittle my predictions, let’s see if any of you have the cojones to actually take the bet - I am aware most will run and hide
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Usual suspects gone missing again, can never put their money where their big, ill informed and nearly always wrong gobs are
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I'm not sure what that has to do with the Basque manager topic I mentioned.

Mendilíbar, the bloke currently at Olympiacos, is the guy who took Sevilla when they were toying with relegation last season and sucker-punched United en route to them winning another Europa League title.

Alonso, Arteta, Emery, Iraola, Lopetegui, Valverde, Alguacil (Real Sociedad) and Mendilíbar all hail from a region of little over 2 million inhabitants.

It's pretty remarkable.

As for the PL providing most of the clubs in the closing rounds of European competitions, it makes perfect sense. It's by far the richest league. Just like it makes perfect sense for Madrid to make the closing rounds in Europe.

The surprise isn't all those PL sides getting far, if anything it's that they don't hoard a greater proportion of the trophies.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 13 minutes ago
Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.
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You gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite?
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I'll leave the epic biting to you Mug Muppet

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Peks Targaryen - zaldrīzes buzdari iksos daor ("a dragon is not a slave"(U6618)
posted 1 hour, 17 minutes ago
Villa getting KOed and easily by a Greek team is shocking for a club lying 4th in the supposedly vastly superior Premier League
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Olympiacos managed by another manager from the excellent Basque stable.
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Olympiacos conversion rate over the 2 legs was insane - they had less than half the shots Villa did over the 2 legs only to score 6 compared to Villa’s 2. El Kaabi scored 5 of the 6.

It happens. Douglas Luiz had a shocking tie as well - conceding 1 penalty and missing another.

For those that like to whack the Prem - it produced 2 of last years 3 euro winners. 60% of CL finalists in the last 5 years have been English, only Real Madrid can hold a candle to that.

What happened this year is Man United and Newcastle were atrocious.

I will happily bet with anyone and everyone on her that England secures an additional CL spot next season. You all like to try and belittle my predictions, let’s see if any of you have the cojones to actually take the bet - I am aware most will run and hide
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Usual suspects gone missing again, can never put their money where their big, ill informed and nearly always wrong gobs are
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I'm not sure what that has to do with the Basque manager topic I mentioned.

Mendilíbar, the bloke currently at Olympiacos, is the guy who took Sevilla when they were toying with relegation last season and sucker-punched United en route to them winning another Europa League title.

Alonso, Arteta, Emery, Iraola, Lopetegui, Valverde, Alguacil (Real Sociedad) and Mendilíbar all hail from a region of little over 2 million inhabitants.

It's pretty remarkable.

As for the PL providing most of the clubs in the closing rounds of European competitions, it makes perfect sense. It's by far the richest league. Just like it makes perfect sense for Madrid to make the closing rounds in Europe.

The surprise isn't all those PL sides getting far, if anything it's that they don't hoard a greater proportion of the trophies.
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Apologies, was not directed at you.

On your point, the Prem plus Real Madrid do hoard the Champions league over the last 5 years - the prem winning 3 and Real 1, Bayern won the other.

It’s the Europa league where English clubs have massively underperformed, including Liverpool this season. My theory is that the big 6 Prem clubs do. It take it anywhere near as serious as our European counterparts and that’s what costs us more than anything else. Different comp, but Lille and Olympiacos had their games between European legs postponed to try and help them - the Prem will never do that.

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 13 minutes ago
Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.
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You gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite?
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I'll leave the epic biting to you Mug Muppet

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So once again you run your mug and then can’t back it up - what a surprise.

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 13 minutes ago
Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.
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You gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite?
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I'll leave the epic biting to you Mug Muppet

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So once again you run your mug and then can’t back it up - what a surprise.
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No idea what you're blabbing on about Mug Muppet? Are you confusing me for Luka?

Open a window of your study and have a little lie down saan.

comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by WeekendOffender (U22920)
posted 13 minutes ago
Oh dear. StrikeMug not taking Spurs latest failure well.
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You gonna bark all day little doggy or are you gonna bite?
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I'll leave the epic biting to you Mug Muppet

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So once again you run your mug and then can’t back it up - what a surprise.
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No idea what you're blabbing on about Mug Muppet? Are you confusing me for Luka?

Open a window of your study and have a little lie down saan.

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Zzzzzzzzz

comment by Striketeam7 - There used to be a football club over there (U18109)
posted 1 day, 4 hours ago

Apologies, was not directed at you.

On your point, the Prem plus Real Madrid do hoard the Champions league over the last 5 years - the prem winning 3 and Real 1, Bayern won the other.

It’s the Europa league where English clubs have massively underperformed, including Liverpool this season. My theory is that the big 6 Prem clubs do. It take it anywhere near as serious as our European counterparts and that’s what costs us more than anything else. Different comp, but Lille and Olympiacos had their games between European legs postponed to try and help them - the Prem will never do that.
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No worries.

Regarding the hoarding comment, the thing is that 5 years feels like a bit of an arbitrary cutoff point, since the PL's been the wealthiest league for much longer.

I'm aware that some PL sides do to throw the minor European competitions when they've got bigger fish to fry (the bigger fish generally being when they entertain the possibility of making the CL through the league), but that only accounts for a proportion of the entrants, and it also completely ignores the fact that sides from the other big leagues also rotate quite a bit in the EL/ECL before those tournaments get to the pointy end. If it goes largely unnoticed, it's because your average fan or pundit doesn't know what the starting teams from those leagues would normally look like.

And other than in very specific circumstances, they definitely don't throw them once they're into the QFs or deeper. You can't tell me United or Liverpool, to name a couple of salient examples, threw their Europa League finals against Villarreal and Sevilla (curiously enough, as an aside, both of which were under one of the Basque managers mentioned above).

What I really won't buy is this idea -which is by no means new- that PL sides don't win more in Europe because they just can't be bothered.