Morning All
Don't wanna get started on the result last night.... Wanted Spurs to win but never really thought it was likely given our form.... But anyway. Moving on to something different......
For some reason I have found myself watching Villa & Palace games a couple of times in the past month and noticed something about both.
Both play with 3 CBs and have attacking full backs pushed way up allowing talented wide players the ability to cut inside and support a central striker. Both play a pretty high line and like to aggressively press the ball from the front.
Given the vulnerability that Spurs have shown to defend properly I just wondered if this might make sense for us moving forward ?
I though Dragusin did well last night and we all know that VDV is a roller of a player anywhere on the left side.
Given the way Porro & Udogie spend most of their time in Midfield I wonder if this might work at Spurs.
I think Most people agree we could prob do with another CM, Wide player and CF but even with what we have I can't help thinking it might give us a bit more defensive cover (with an extra CB), maintain numbers in Midfield and solve our rather predictable attacking approach...... all while allowing us to play on the front foot.
I know he hasn't been on the greatest of form since his injury but to me, we don't get Madders on the ball enough. I think we are so much better we he is dictating the game. Hopefully in this formation we could get him more involved while having enough defensive cover in th3 3CBs (all of who'm are good on the ball), the 2 WBs and Biss.
Was thinking about something like this....(Given our current players, hopefully new additions this summer)
*****************Vic****************
*****Romero.... Dragusin***VDV****
**Porro***Biss***Madders***Udogie**
*******Johnson/***Richy****Son*****
Not sure If Ange is willing to change his approach but I thought it might fit ?
Thoughts ?
AngeBall..... 343
posted on 15/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Wait, you're serious?
posted on 15/5/24
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
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comment by junction8 (U1074)
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comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
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comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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If Levy doesn't back him this summer, having sold Kane you wouldn't blame him if he walked. Its bad enough that ENIC puts profit before winning, now half the fan base seems more concerned about Arsenal than us winning or progressing... Sad to say but we are a bit of joke
I can fully understand why rivals take such joy in our failures
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This needs to stop now.
Arsenal fans said in 2019 that they'd rather lose the Europa Final than see us win the CL. Back in '95, Liverpool fans, yes, those fans with the ultimate winning mentality, wanted to throw the game to stop United winning the title to Blackburn. All fans are exactly the same under rival circumstances so we need to stop dressing this up as some sort of unique 'Spursy' characteristic.
I wanted us to win last night but only because CL was on offer. The moment they scored first making it an absolute mountain to climb to get the 3 points needed, I stopped caring and laughed at some of the songs being sung. Apathy sets in when you no longer have anything riding on a situation. If we're in this position it's because the manager and the players didn't do enough between November and now to keep the fans interested.
I'm just getting really annoyed that we're being accused of being the only fan base that have ever done this, least of all by one of our own.
posted on 15/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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Sacked or Walks?
posted on 15/5/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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Sacked or Walks?
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Walks.
Don't think or want him sacked. And it might be just the heat of the moment but he was clearly taking aim at the whole club, top to bottom.
posted on 15/5/24
Ange will probably walk in the summer when Levy buys him Henderson for midfield and Nicholas Jackson for striker
posted on 15/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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Sacked or Walks?
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Walks.
Don't think or want him sacked. And it might be just the heat of the moment but he was clearly taking aim at the whole club, top to bottom.
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Well it's worth reminding him that his beloved Liverpool, yes, that same club with the ultimate winning mentality fostered by a dominant history, wanted to throw the game against Blackburn in '95 to stop United winning the league.
Ange clearly needs a history lesson because there's nothing unique about Spurs fans. We're all the same when it comes to arch rivals. Once they scored, the win was out of reach for us, as was the CL, so why not laud it over Arsenal?
posted on 15/5/24
comment by fridgeboy (U1053)
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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If Levy doesn't back him this summer, having sold Kane you wouldn't blame him if he walked. Its bad enough that ENIC puts profit before winning, now half the fan base seems more concerned about Arsenal than us winning or progressing... Sad to say but we are a bit of joke
I can fully understand why rivals take such joy in our failures
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This needs to stop now.
Arsenal fans said in 2019 that they'd rather lose the Europa Final than see us win the CL. Back in '95, Liverpool fans, yes, those fans with the ultimate winning mentality, wanted to throw the game to stop United winning the title to Blackburn. All fans are exactly the same under rival circumstances so we need to stop dressing this up as some sort of unique 'Spursy' characteristic.
I wanted us to win last night but only because CL was on offer. The moment they scored first making it an absolute mountain to climb to get the 3 points needed, I stopped caring and laughed at some of the songs being sung. Apathy sets in when you no longer have anything riding on a situation. If we're in this position it's because the manager and the players didn't do enough between November and now to keep the fans interested.
I'm just getting really annoyed that we're being accused of being the only fan base that have ever done this, least of all by one of our own.
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Good post
posted on 15/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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Sacked or Walks?
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Walks.
Don't think or want him sacked. And it might be just the heat of the moment but he was clearly taking aim at the whole club, top to bottom.
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He was certainly having a pop at fans and some players.
Between that, its not clear whether this criticism is also being levelled at Levy and the clubs willingness to spend. Some will reach that conclusion, and it may be right. The summer window will tell us.
But Ange has been saying for a while now that we've been working on our summer plans for a time and that they are unaffected by UCL or EL qualification. That at least implies he's onboard with whatever plans we have.
I do think this interview is a little bit of a come back at recent criticism. I have rarely seen him so annoyed and animated on the touchlines and then this interview....its a bit like he's pushing back on the criticism of his management style/ability.
What i like is that he is clearly very frustrated that players are making error. He seems very demanding of them and increasingly annoyed that mistakes are continuing to happen.
What is worrying about that is that players do not always respond well to demanding coaches becoming critical, and unless you are Pep or Klopp, you know that mistakes usually cost the manager their job while you keep playing/picking up your wages.
posted on 15/5/24
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 seconds ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 14 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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Go on!?
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Sacked or Walks?
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Walks.
Don't think or want him sacked. And it might be just the heat of the moment but he was clearly taking aim at the whole club, top to bottom.
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He was certainly having a pop at fans and some players.
Between that, its not clear whether this criticism is also being levelled at Levy and the clubs willingness to spend. Some will reach that conclusion, and it may be right. The summer window will tell us.
But Ange has been saying for a while now that we've been working on our summer plans for a time and that they are unaffected by UCL or EL qualification. That at least implies he's onboard with whatever plans we have.
I do think this interview is a little bit of a come back at recent criticism. I have rarely seen him so annoyed and animated on the touchlines and then this interview....its a bit like he's pushing back on the criticism of his management style/ability.
What i like is that he is clearly very frustrated that players are making error. He seems very demanding of them and increasingly annoyed that mistakes are continuing to happen.
What is worrying about that is that players do not always respond well to demanding coaches becoming critical, and unless you are Pep or Klopp, you know that mistakes usually cost the manager their job while you keep playing/picking up your wages.
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I was surprised by his reaction yesterday. I thought that was one of our best performances of the season. On another day, we win that. We controlled a lot of that game which no one else in world football has managed against City. He has no reason to come for any of those players out there last night. They certainly gave it everything. I just think he's talking possibly a couple of individuals within the squad, maybe those frustrated at a lack of game time, and the general fan base for not wanting Arsenal to win the title. Weirdly I don't think any of that rant was to do with his first 11 or Levy. People are reading far too much into it. Most of it could be down to that one dicccckhead in the crowd giving him shiiiit behind him.
posted on 15/5/24
comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
Tbh....I think there is every chance we'll have a new manager come the start of next season.
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