DRoss and Rees-Mogg

Great news!

Can’t help but feel the Tories lost this rather than Labour winning it.

(TM Bears, this year)

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Can’t help but feel the Tories lost this rather than Labour winning it.

(TM Bears, this year)
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To be fair, there’s an element of truth in that. Labour’s share of the vote only increased from 32% in 2019 (202 seats) to 35% this time (a mental 412 seats). To put it in context, the Tories had 43.6% in 2019. Tories and SNP totally fooked themselves, and the LibDems and Reform picked up most of the pieces.

… See the data’s actually been updated now. With one seat still outstanding, Labour’s share of the vote is 33.7%, only up 1.6% in last time. Their actual votes received were actually DOWN about 600k from 2019 on the last info I read, yet more than doubled their seats. Mental.

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 15 minutes ago
… See the data’s actually been updated now. With one seat still outstanding, Labour’s share of the vote is 33.7%, only up 1.6% in last time. Their actual votes received were actually DOWN about 600k from 2019 on the last info I read, yet more than doubled their seats. Mental.
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Democracy rules!

comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 23 hours, 1 minute ago
That’ll be independence fcked then:
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Two years until the next Scottish election. That'll be two years of Scottish Labour having to take ownership of further Westminster austerity, two years of having to justify Scottish Labour MPs - if they even attempt to represent Scottish issues - being totally ignored by their party. The case for independence will never have been stronger.

comment by Luka Bosh Brasi (U22178)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 15 minutes ago
… See the data’s actually been updated now. With one seat still outstanding, Labour’s share of the vote is 33.7%, only up 1.6% in last time. Their actual votes received were actually DOWN about 600k from 2019 on the last info I read, yet more than doubled their seats. Mental.
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Democracy rules!
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Oh, absolutely. The country was long overdue for a change of government. Just trying to make the point that, despite the landslide of seats, there’s been no massive shift in voting towards Starmer’s Labour. Read an article yesterday, when it still looked like the Lab vote share was 35%, saying that their seemingly modest 3%-ish increase was entirely covered by the massive shift away from the SNP in Scotland. So now that their actual share is “only” 33.7% (a mere 1.6% rise), it would surely suggest that their percentage share of the vote in the rest of the UK actually DECREASED slightly from 2019? For the avoidance of doubt though, they absolutely deserve to be in power. I’d probably have voted Lab myself, if my constituency hadn’t been a straight shootout between the incumbent SNP (leader in Westminster) and Tory … as much as I really didn’t want to do the latter, I had to tactically vote anti-Indy/SNP, albeit in vain.

comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 23 hours, 1 minute ago
That’ll be independence fcked then:
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Two years until the next Scottish election. That'll be two years of Scottish Labour having to take ownership of further Westminster austerity, two years of having to justify Scottish Labour MPs - if they even attempt to represent Scottish issues - being totally ignored by their party. The case for independence will never have been stronger.
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No sure about that, mate. Think the way the SNP has been “run” will fook the chances of Indy for a good while now. To be clear I don’t support Indy, as I’ve just said above … or, more accurately, I have leanings in favour in principle, but I’ve zero faith/confidence that these incompetent cants could in any way, shape or form deliver it effectively. So I’m out until that changes.

comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 10 hours ago
comment by WorkPermitPending (U1067)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by PointyBirds (U21890)
posted 23 hours, 1 minute ago
That’ll be independence fcked then:
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Two years until the next Scottish election. That'll be two years of Scottish Labour having to take ownership of further Westminster austerity, two years of having to justify Scottish Labour MPs - if they even attempt to represent Scottish issues - being totally ignored by their party. The case for independence will never have been stronger.
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No sure about that, mate. Think the way the SNP has been “run” will fook the chances of Indy for a good while now. To be clear I don’t support Indy, as I’ve just said above … or, more accurately, I have leanings in favour in principle, but I’ve zero faith/confidence that these incompetent cants could in any way, shape or form deliver it effectively. So I’m out until that changes.
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Fully agree that the SNPs record on delivery in recent years has been very poor and shown a real lack of judgement/awareness at times. Indy would completely change not just the dynamic of Scottish politics though, but the people who get involved with it too. I fully believe that a more (politically) diverse set of politicians would come through, and from them we would be able to form more functional governments. The ironic thing about the SNP saying independence is part of the solution is because one effect would be a move to a post-SNP Scotland.

Funny how the spectre of Proportinal Representation is only now beginning to rear its head in the Mainstream Media.
I keep on hearing pathtic whimpering from unseated tories