Joshua Zirkzee

comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 2 hours, 56 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 55 minutes ago
comment by Robberto Garnacho (U22716)
posted 8 hours, 26 minutes ago
Rosso, I love you but your positivity is next level OTT. Still, I guess I’d rather have a site of people with your upbeatness than a site of United We Moans. So thanks for coming back 🙌
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Do you totally reject the wider point that rectifying lack of goals from wide forwards is just as important as adding goals from the centre forward?
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Not totally but it’s more of a theory of what might happen than reality. Like we’re putting the cart before the horse - ie trying to solve not having a prolific goal scorer by adding another sporadic goal scorer. Yes we need more goals from our wide players but there’s no guarantee this guy is going to make that happen.
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What we really need is to provide better service to our forwards.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
This must feel a bit underwhelming for United fans?
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Personally, I'm always more excited by signing prospects than big names. Might not work out, but I'm certainly not underwhelmed.
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Fair enough. IMO, you could do with a bit more experience and know how up front given that you already have an exciting prospect up front, even if it was just a loan for a year if you don't have the big money to throw at this position this summer.
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Again, we could do with experienced, plug-and-play high quality players to replace Varane and ideally Casemiro, and at left back. Like the incoming Labour government after a decade of incompetence, we have barely any money to invest. Given that we're not going to challenge in the next season or two, I'm fine bringing in players we can reasonably expect to improve with a view to the team peaking a bit later.

Literally all season Redastomatoes has been moaning about youth not being given opportunities. We go out and buy the Serie A YPOTY and he's complaining that he's 'massively incomplete'?

comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 5 minutes ago
This must feel a bit underwhelming for United fans?
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Personally, I'm always more excited by signing prospects than big names. Might not work out, but I'm certainly not underwhelmed.
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Fair enough. IMO, you could do with a bit more experience and know how up front given that you already have an exciting prospect up front, even if it was just a loan for a year if you don't have the big money to throw at this position this summer.
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Again, we could do with experienced, plug-and-play high quality players to replace Varane and ideally Casemiro, and at left back. Like the incoming Labour government after a decade of incompetence, we have barely any money to invest. Given that we're not going to challenge in the next season or two, I'm fine bringing in players we can reasonably expect to improve with a view to the team peaking a bit later.
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Yep; the old regime has absolutely ruined us fiscally, and now we’re bereft of cash.

Diabolically anachronistic philosophically, with no coherent, overarching plan for our mid- to long-term economic future; just how can we milk this cow as hard as possible in our own interests and those of our investors in the short term, without a thought for reinvesting to improve our fortunes operationally or revive our crumbling infrastructure.

And the Glazers have arguably been just as bad for United.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Literally all season Redastomatoes has been moaning about youth not being given opportunities. We go out and buy the Serie A YPOTY and he's complaining that he's 'massively incomplete'?
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Absolutely this. Personally I'm very excited by this signing (if it happens).

Isn't this the kind of player profile we've been wanting the club to target more often over the last several years? Young (but with a decent number of games under his belt playing in one of Europe's top leagues), talented, brings a skillset to the CF position we desperately need, has room to develop and improve, is being signed for a pretty low fee and if nothing else would likely retain resale value later on. And he's not South American!

I don't know who else we can realistically bring in to bolster the CF position at a fee that doesn't inhibit our ability to address other positions in which we desperately need reinforcements.

It's worth remembering we were forced to play Hojlund virtually every game he was fit to play. That's a big ask of a young player making his debut season in a new league, in a new country and without having had any preseason either. We also saw a bit of a glimpse of how effective Hojlund can be entering the game a bit later on, utilising his pace and power against tired legs when the game has opened up a bit and there's more space to work in. If we'd had the option to rotate him more frequently throughout the season I think we'd have gotten more out of him as well.

comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 29 minutes ago
Literally all season Redastomatoes has been moaning about youth not being given opportunities. We go out and buy the Serie A YPOTY and he's complaining that he's 'massively incomplete'?
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He’s 23, that’s too old for him.

comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 13 minutes ago
Literally all season Redastomatoes has been moaning about youth not being given opportunities. We go out and buy the Serie A YPOTY and he's complaining that he's 'massively incomplete'?
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Absolutely this. Personally I'm very excited by this signing (if it happens).

Isn't this the kind of player profile we've been wanting the club to target more often over the last several years? Young (but with a decent number of games under his belt playing in one of Europe's top leagues), talented, brings a skillset to the CF position we desperately need, has room to develop and improve, is being signed for a pretty low fee and if nothing else would likely retain resale value later on. And he's not South American!

I don't know who else we can realistically bring in to bolster the CF position at a fee that doesn't inhibit our ability to address other positions in which we desperately need reinforcements.

It's worth remembering we were forced to play Hojlund virtually every game he was fit to play. That's a big ask of a young player making his debut season in a new league, in a new country and without having had any preseason either. We also saw a bit of a glimpse of how effective Hojlund can be entering the game a bit later on, utilising his pace and power against tired legs when the game has opened up a bit and there's more space to work in. If we'd had the option to rotate him more frequently throughout the season I think we'd have gotten more out of him as well.
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I haven't seen anything of the lad, so can't comment on his ability. But in terms of his profile, he sounds like the type of player we should have been making in the last decade and the type of signing that SAF would make.

Read that we are pretty much done for the Zirkzee deal and now discussing with the club whether to pay his release fee or work around a new deal so they get more of the money (as Bayern get 50% sell on).

Would doing something like that not just cause Bayern to be a bit firmer on the price we have to pay for De Ligt?

comment by Tyranny of the majority (SE85) (U21241)
posted 1 day, 1 hour ago
Good age, good fee and sounds like he's good at holding the ball up which Rasmus struggles with massively.

My biggest concern is his goal scoring record is rather poor. 14 goals in 52 apps at Bologna isn't exactly setting the world on fire is it? We are a team who massively struggles for goals so I was kind of hoping we could get somebody more proven and clinical.

Let's hope he's a diamond in the rough eh?
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Just think of the options it gives us. If we want to lose the ball in attacking positions, we can play Hojlund. If we're scoring too many, swap him out for Zirkzee.

It's a squad game these days.

We need a striker that will bring our wingers who look lost into the game a bit and can hold up play, but also one that will create goals out of nothing because our wingers are pretty awful in terms of creativity or putting chances on a plate for a striker, he needs to be young and hungry not another player looking for a final pay day, and cheap enough so we can spend on other areas, guarantee 30 goals but also willing to be benched a lot of the time so we can continue to develop Hoijlund.

Fckin sort it Ashworth.