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Hate speech

With government making a statement about social media posts, incitement, hatred, racism online 9an don't before time), how does this affect football fans?

If government are saying zero tolerance and jail sentences for hate speech and incitement online, why shouldn't that include fans arguing or bullying/abuse in forums like this one?

Where does the line get drawn and who decides where the line is?

Should someone receive a custodial sentence for such online hate speech?

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Keep It Greasy - Music is the BEST (U1396)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by 1 Father- 1 Love - 2 Reds (U13312)
posted 8 hours, 11 minutes ago
Which dangerous criminals are the government going to release to make space for those ever so hurtful, even more dangerous social media posters?

Good to know 1984 is just around the corner. What exciting times!
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I would imagine that the ones being released would be those pretty near the end of their sentence or eligibile for parole, or those guilty of quite minor infractions.
Your big mistake is assuming that "dangerous" criminals would be those released.

But then again, I have zero proof of any of this - just like YOU.
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I have a friend who works in the Scottish Prison service and as far as he knows atm it will be those approaching the end of their sentence and also only certain offenses, they haven't had solid instructions only guidelines so far and are waiting on further instructions

posted on 12/8/24

The world has gone a little bit mad but social media has to take a lot of the blame.



Facebook Twitter and tiictok some of the worst inventions ever

posted on 12/8/24

TikTok should be banned. It's just a pathway for an entire generation to be diagnosed (or not) with ADHD ffs. 30 second clips of morons thinking/pretending/believing they're famous, all talking shyite for attention.

posted on 12/8/24

"Your big mistake is assuming that "dangerous" criminals would be those released."

The dangerous criminal's'll be waiting for their new b'tches to arrive!..

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 12/8/24

comment by Democracy & Debate Trumps Hate (U9489)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
TikTok should be banned. It's just a pathway for an entire generation to be diagnosed (or not) with ADHD ffs. 30 second clips of morons thinking/pretending/believing they're famous, all talking shyite for attention.
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We saw lots of kids in Japan and Thailand making videos for tik Tok. They are a bloody menace! Everywhere we went there were morons posing in matching clothes and pulling stupid faces.

Nobody wants to do a honest days work these days. Social media has made it easy to make money without having to do anything serious with their lives.

Sad because a huge majority of them will end up self diagnosing as depressed.

posted on 12/8/24

when the home office pump money into the radicalisation programme, they are as concerned about right wing radicalisation as they are about islamic radicalisation, it's called ERWT. LASIT is not considered as much of a threat (Left Wing, Anarchist and Single-Issue Terrorism). The government run programme to attempt people becoming groomed into any form of terrorist related activity, this is a stark and concerning fact 19% of the 6,817 people referred to Prevent were
considered by police to be “extreme Right Wing
concern”, considerably higher than the 11% with
perceived “Islamist concerns”. All of them are scary. The rhetoric that's being pumped out by the likes of Matthew Hankinson, Mark Collett, Laura Melia and her lovely husband, who is currently in prison, we should all be scared of. People post Farage's posts in jest but this is where we are heading.

posted on 12/8/24

Some ridiculous comments on here. Of the the whole think kicked off because the far right blamed Muslims + blacks for the killing of the poor little girls and attacked these people without any concern or care.

We have freedom of speech in the UK; it's written into our law in the 1998 Human Rigts Act. But rights come with responsibilities (I appreciate that's a concept some on here can’t take or aren’t not familiar with); there's a requirement not to incite criminality or spread hatred online. We find society works better that way.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 13/8/24

comment by A14... Tea was fantastic پاکستان ... (U2805)
posted 8 hours, 22 minutes ago
Some ridiculous comments on here. Of the the whole think kicked off because the far right blamed Muslims + blacks for the killing of the poor little girls and attacked these people without any concern or care.

We have freedom of speech in the UK; it's written into our law in the 1998 Human Rigts Act. But rights come with responsibilities (I appreciate that's a concept some on here can’t take or aren’t not familiar with); there's a requirement not to incite criminality or spread hatred online. We find society works better that way.

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Absolutely spot on! People think freedom of speech allows them to incite violence and make racist comments.

Quite rightly they are taken to task if they do that.

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 13/8/24

Things are all strange at the moment. We see a guy jailed for sharing three FB memes that have been doing the rounds for months and do not incite violence as far as I can remember.

Then historically (which evidently they can still come after you for) we have a guy who seemed to want someone he doesn’t like (Jan Moir the journalist) thrown under a train - Our Health Secretary Wes Steeting.

Then we have another guy wanting to “poor whatever I can get my hands on over a white suprematist” - our Foreign Secretary David Lammy.

Should they be taken to task over this based on the laws that Labour seem to be enacting right now?

It’s a very strange place we seem to have ended up in. Almost like the 1984 bus has just arrived 40 years late.

posted on 14/8/24

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