Ornstein reported at the weekend that the double deal for De Ligt and Mazraoui was done, pending medicals and AWB's exit.
And it looks like the details of AWB's transfer to West Ham were finally ironed out last night with a £15m fee incoming.
De Ligt reported to be €45+5m, five years plus one. Mazraoui reported to be €15+5m. Mazraoui's medical today. Not sure if De Ligt's has been reported, but my guess would be that the club would also want it done quickly so that they can unveil both players together.
Four players in with close to three weeks of the window to go, which is pretty incredible by our standards. Although it obviously isn't critical from a medium to long term perspective, there are multiple benefits to getting incoming deals done earlier, so personally, I feel that we're in a pretty good position inbound deals-wise.
Some of the attention I would guess will now shift back to outgoings to fund a sorely-needed DM and possibly another forward. With De Ligt in, one of Maguire and 'lof might well leave, as well as one of Casemiro, McT and Eriksen (although I think ETH might want to keep Eriksen around).
Then there's surely a surplus of wingers, with at least one of Sancho, Antony (sadly probably on loan) and Pellistri surely set to leave.
Onana
Bayindir
Heaton
Dalot
Mazraoui
De Ligt
Yoro
Martinez
Slabberz/'lof
Evans
Shaw
Malacia
Amass
Ugarte?
Mainoo
Casemiro/McT
Eriksen
Collyer
Bruno
Mount
Mejbri/Gore
Rashford
Nacho
Diallo
Sancho/Antony
Pellistri
Hojlund
Zirkzee
Wheatley
How are we all feeling about how the squad is shaping up?
Could be a big day today
posted on 13/8/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 1 hour, 21 minutes ago
Always entertaining when se85 talks absolute bollllocks.
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Talking bollllocks?
We have signed a load of his former players and now the ETH cult on here believe it's a coincidence and De Ligt is a INEOS target.
You're all in complete denial and it's utterly hilarious. Of course ETH is very much behind these two deals with Bayern.
posted on 13/8/24
Wasn't de ligt a potential target in Jose's tenure
posted on 13/8/24
It’s not denial, some just don’t see things so black and white like you do every single time to the point you continually moan like a bellllend.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by manutd1982 (U6633)
posted 2 minutes ago
It’s not denial, some just don’t see things so black and white like you do every single time to the point you continually moan like a bellllend.
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I don't see everything as black and white.
We've now signed 5 of his former players, 6 former Ajax players in total and also 3 Dutch players on top.
Doesn't take a detective to work out the link does it?
It wasn't even a debate on whether they are good enough. I have no real opinion on that and I hope they both come in and work wonders for us. My whole point was that this manager still has a lot more say on transfers than some of you think he does. Might be why he got a 1 year extension instead of a new 3 year deal which was originally rumoured.
If you want to believe De Ligt and Mazraoui had nothing to do with the manager then be my guest.
posted on 13/8/24
Where have I said the manager has had no say? I’m sure he has had some influence but also that INEOS are conducting transfers differently and not giving EtH the same powers he had previously.
posted on 13/8/24
There is a world though were signings from Ajax/Netherlands aligns with what those above ETH want.
For the quoted £50m I think it's a good deal for De Ligt and Mazraoui. It'll hopefully improve us on the ball.
posted on 13/8/24
If you want to believe De Ligt and Mazraoui had nothing to do with the manager then be my guest
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I don't think anyone has said this
You on the other hand are saying Ineos have had little or no influence on the transfer targets in this window
posted on 13/8/24
Do you worry you're trying to do too much in one window and compromising a bit on quality, which will affect you again in a couple of years? Or is it just the level you're at now that's dictating who you can get?
You've obviously improved the squad (hard not to), but I feel like if you make it back to a decent level then all of these signings, except probably Yolo, will need to be replaced in a couple of years.
It's a tough balancing act getting competitive vs building for the future and it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
posted on 13/8/24
comment by T-BAD (U11806)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
Do you worry you're trying to do too much in one window and compromising a bit on quality, which will affect you again in a couple of years? Or is it just the level you're at now that's dictating who you can get?
You've obviously improved the squad (hard not to), but I feel like if you make it back to a decent level then all of these signings, except probably Yolo, will need to be replaced in a couple of years.
It's a tough balancing act getting competitive vs building for the future and it'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.
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I think this window was largely about a) bolstering the squad with young potential and depth both to refresh and hopefully to help avoid last season’s injury catastrophe, and b) providing ETH with options and players more suited to how he wants to play.
Yoro is obviously being earmarked as a future starter alongside Martinez. Lots of potential there.
De Ligt will be his competition and is five years younger than and an upgrade on Maguire/Lindelof as third choice CB. Depth signing.
Mazraoui is basically a straight squad place swap for AWB, but more suited to how ETH wants to play (much better going forwards) and able to cover LB. Another depth signing behind Dalot.
Zirkzee is a depth and option signing replacing Martial as the CF who can knit and feed. Again plenty of potential to develop.
I think we’re going to see a lot more of this from Ineos - less going after big names and form players, and more after potential and players who actually fit stylistically.
posted on 13/8/24
I’m quite pleased with de Ligt, zirkzee and Mazraoui. Yoro too should prove a great buy. If we could get rid of deadwood like Sancho and get a decent dm in, that would be a decent window imo