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What if....?

We don't beat Everton, who are now planning a 1980's style Wimbledon blitzkrieg?

The next two games are Newcastle away and Arsenal home.

I'm asking, not suggesting, if we win none of our first 4 games, what is the reaction going to be from Levy and the hard core fans?

It's not like we finished last season in form, losing something like 5 of the last 7, so this would be a continuation of it really.

Is Ange in, not danger, but a precarious situation?

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

I think with his.....

I normally win trophies in my second season statement he's bought the pressure on himself.

And it might be on top if we lose to the gooners and get another tonking at Newcastle.....

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 2 minutes ago
Regardless of the results in our first 4 games does anyone really think Ange is tactically savvy enough to make Top 4 and win a trophy.... I don't ! & I like Ange (but he is what he is & he aint changing)

Ange was hired to play more attractive football, calm the restless natives and change the sentiment around the club that we had returned this "To dare is to do" bollix that the club like to market. Its easier to raise prices/ attractive to corp sponsors etc if we are putting on an entertaining show
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I mean we easily could have gotten top 4 last season so I don't really see why he's incapable of doing it
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We.could have....but we lost form in part from shooting ourselves in the foot again and never really recovered and the standard of dropping daft points.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

If we don't beat Everton then the pressure continues to mount on Ange.

We need to show we are progressing as a club and the signs for this season so far wouldn't look great would they?

Obviously I'd give him more than a handful of games but if after, let's say 10, we're struggling somewhere in mid-table, not close to the top 4 then it's probably a question of 'when' rather than 'if' he gets the boot. Both Jose and AVB were booted out while in 7th position without having achieved top 4 the season before.

Nobody expects instant success with long term projects but there has to at least be a steady progression. There's instead been a regression since the first 10 games and we aren't just talking a few games, it's been well over half a season since that time and the start of another one.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by junction8 (U1074)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
I think with his.....

I normally win trophies in my second season statement he's bought the pressure on himself.

And it might be on top if we lose to the gooners and get another tonking at Newcastle.....
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He should be under a lot of pressure anyway with all the money that's been spent. Admittedly it's not net spend, but consider this; as much money has been splashed out in just these 3 transfer windows with him than in the 11 transfer windows with Poch.

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago

I think we are a bit like a much less exciting Newcastle under Keegan.
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whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt????????????????

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by I am a number (U23088)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Not So Bored As Fudge (U21998)
posted 2 hours, 58 minutes ago

I think we are a bit like a much less exciting Newcastle under Keegan.
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whhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaattttttttttt????????????????
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Score more than you thought process without thinking too hard about defending.

But, their wingers bombed forward and crossed, ours stop, turn, cut back (fall over in BJ's case) and pass back.

We even put Werner on the right to clog everything up even more lol

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

Personally i am bored, completely disinterested in watching us play. We look like school children following the ball. In the same way most were by Jose.

As for Everton if they are smart they commit to long balls and a runner. Our defensive line was shambolic against a toothless Leicester you coul drive a bus between VDV and romero, it will be the same against a toothless Everton. Commit to set pieces and they potentially get a result.

We can play a high line by the way, look at the beautiful way Brighton are playing. Load of new personnel in there aswell off the pitch and on it. We play with no defensive plan like a kitchen sieve.

Aussie Ardilles has no clue and i struggle to understand how or why people defend him like he is the messiah.

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by look like modric (U7431)
posted 15 minutes ago
Personally i am bored, completely disinterested in watching us play. We look like school children following the ball. In the same way most were by Jose.

As for Everton if they are smart they commit to long balls and a runner. Our defensive line was shambolic against a toothless Leicester you coul drive a bus between VDV and romero, it will be the same against a toothless Everton. Commit to set pieces and they potentially get a result.

We can play a high line by the way, look at the beautiful way Brighton are playing. Load of new personnel in there aswell off the pitch and on it. We play with no defensive plan like a kitchen sieve.

Aussie Ardilles has no clue and i struggle to understand how or why people defend him like he is the messiah.
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Find it hard to disagree with this. watching Spurs is like watching an Under 11s... Theres just zero tactical nous..... I cant imagine anyone worries about playing us. Even during our good start last season there were some pretty jammy last min wins.. Sheff United & Liverpool spring to mind.

I bet Dyche fancies his chances of a 1-0 away win on sat... sit deep, defend properly hit us on the break or with a set piece..... I imagine we'll have 65-70% possession but very much doubt we'll hammer them 4-0.... We have lots of good players but are tactics are ideological nonsense..... Unsuitable for the worlds hardest league

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted 3 weeks, 4 days ago

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 4 hours, 8 minutes ago
I would say given the business we have done this summer having only signed one player above the age of 20, the club is clearly taking a long term view and things would have to be much worse than 4 games without a win to start the season for Ange to get sacked
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I would say this is the direction the club want to go in whether Ange is at the helm or not. Bringing in young players and playing more attractive football, and if it fails under Ange we'll find someone else who fits the style.

Managers become long term at big clubs by showing progress and success. If there isn't either then they're chucked.

Ange will do well to keep his job if by the end we're not in the top 4 or haven't won anything. Is Levy going to accept another season like last?

posted 3 weeks, 3 days ago

The more pressure on Ausieglue the better!
Maybe then he'll start thinking about tactics and flexibility. Yime to stop being a one trick pony.

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