Over 30 years I've been watching Arsenal now.
I can't remember a huge deal about the refereeing in the first five years but in the last 2 and a half decades we've been playing against 12 men 9/10 Premier League matches. It's a rare miracle if we even get an impartial referee that isn't looking to screw us at every opportunity. Don't get me started on what happened to us in the CL against Barcelona in that final or the RVP second yellow just to name a couple but there were more.
The strictest laws of the game and harshest subjectivity with sick twists are applied to us in every possible context and largely covered up by the media. Yet we regularly see opposition players get away with murder against us.
Countless times every match opponents are allowed to elbow our players in the head / neck / back, throw them to the ground, kick Saka repeatedly and only very rarely a yellow is shown and even more rarely on the first offence.
Given the lack of ambition shown by our owners this summer, our squad starting to crumble already with knocks, injuries and suspensions and the corrupt referees already out to do us I'm personally beginning to lose my love for the club. If not for the referees robbing us on multiple occasions we win the league last season and let's be honest, they tried it in most other games but we were good enough to still get those points
The BBC match report makes me sick to read like usual, clearly written with an anti-Arsenal agenda and no mention of the ball moving when Veltman kicked it into Rice's feet nor the fact Rice had his back to play and was moving away from the ball when it was kicked at him.
If anything it's Veltman who should have seen 2 yellows today one for elbowing Trossard in the neck then throwing him to the ground and the second for the cheating and hacking Rice from behind after yet it's us who go down to 10 whilst he walks away from the match without so much as a booking, I'd say unbelievable but it's not, I expect it every week now and it continues happening without fail. Kavanagh has screwed us several times before and will again before long. Yellows come out like confetti for us but the cards are missing from his pocket when it comes to our opponents like the majority of the other refs.
I hope our fans will start to speak up more about this situation soon. i'd like to see us surrounding the PGMOL HQ and anti-corruption banners every week in the stadium to make a statement.
We MUST start publicity about corruption
posted on 1/9/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
is this all from just Rices moment of stupidity? it was a 2nd yellow all day long. i didnt watch the match so dno what else happened but for this was 100% correct.
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That was the main issue but the referee was incredibly poor all game. As it's been mentioned above it wasn't a definate second yellow card the ball was not stationary when the Brighton player tried to take said free kick and he stole about ten yards from where it should of been taken so the PGMOL excuse of it stopped the game from being started is nonsense the Brighton player did that by not taking it from the right place and ensuring the ball was stationary at the point of trying to restart the game.
posted on 1/9/24
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
is this all from just Rices moment of stupidity? it was a 2nd yellow all day long. i didnt watch the match so dno what else happened but for this was 100% correct.
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That was the main issue but the referee was incredibly poor all game. As it's been mentioned above it wasn't a definate second yellow card the ball was not stationary when the Brighton player tried to take said free kick and he stole about ten yards from where it should of been taken so the PGMOL excuse of it stopped the game from being started is nonsense the Brighton player did that by not taking it from the right place and ensuring the ball was stationary at the point of trying to restart the game.
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ah, i get that then. ball was moving but its still not rices job to decide anything so refs still in the right imo it was silly from Rice esp on a yellow. PGMOL showing their incompetence again though
posted on 1/9/24
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Admiral Ozil is my new favourite Star Wars character (U10178)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by InBefore (U20589)
posted 1 minute ago
is this all from just Rices moment of stupidity? it was a 2nd yellow all day long. i didnt watch the match so dno what else happened but for this was 100% correct.
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That was the main issue but the referee was incredibly poor all game. As it's been mentioned above it wasn't a definate second yellow card the ball was not stationary when the Brighton player tried to take said free kick and he stole about ten yards from where it should of been taken so the PGMOL excuse of it stopped the game from being started is nonsense the Brighton player did that by not taking it from the right place and ensuring the ball was stationary at the point of trying to restart the game.
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ah, i get that then. ball was moving but its still not rices job to decide anything so refs still in the right imo it was silly from Rice esp on a yellow. PGMOL showing their incompetence again though
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I would understand if Rice had picked up the ball or kicked it 20 yards away but in this case Rice had turned around and started to withdraw back into position he wasn't even facing the ball and the fact the Brighton player wasn't even booked for kicking him up in the air made it even worse I mean you've seen players sent off for doing less.
posted on 1/9/24
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Arsenal do seem to suffer ever more bizarre refereeing decisions that, quite often, have an adverse outcome on results for us. These decisions don't always manifest as the team being reduced to 10 men, or having ridiculous goals allowed against us. Often it's more subtle, more insidious than that.
Whilst I'm aware rival fans will say this thinking is paranoia, and call us conspiracy theorists, what cannot be denied is:
'Chris Kavanagh (born 4 September 1985) is an English professional football referee from Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester.'
And Kavanagh is just the tip of the iceberg. There are a disproportionate amount of referees from the north influencing the outcome of PL matches. And not addressing this is another failing of the PGMOL.
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Arsenal fans can't escape this mentality where they are hard done by more than anyone else. The refs from Greater Manchester are the worst though.
posted on 1/9/24
comment by Arne Sabah Nur (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Arsenal do seem to suffer ever more bizarre refereeing decisions that, quite often, have an adverse outcome on results for us. These decisions don't always manifest as the team being reduced to 10 men, or having ridiculous goals allowed against us. Often it's more subtle, more insidious than that.
Whilst I'm aware rival fans will say this thinking is paranoia, and call us conspiracy theorists, what cannot be denied is:
'Chris Kavanagh (born 4 September 1985) is an English professional football referee from Ashton-under-Lyne, Greater Manchester.'
And Kavanagh is just the tip of the iceberg. There are a disproportionate amount of referees from the north influencing the outcome of PL matches. And not addressing this is another failing of the PGMOL.
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Arsenal fans can't escape this mentality where they are hard done by more than anyone else. The refs from Greater Manchester are the worst though.
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With respect sitting there in the stands yesterday watching it did feel like there was two tier officiating going on. I'm sure that will happen at a number games this weekend and countless matches in the future though.
posted on 1/9/24
2 tier refereeing
posted on 1/9/24
So if I’m reading the OP correctly, Arsenal have been victims of corrupt referees for 25 years.
That means that we’re probably talking about circa 80-100 refs, plus support teams, then a couple of years ago they’ve obviously got VAR officials in on the corruption.
The OP also mentioned anti-Arsenal corruption in Europe so that’s probably another 40-50 refs in on the plan from a European perspective.
Then they’ve clearly got journalists involved to ensure the Arsenal perspective isn’t shared in the media.
So we’ve probably got at least 200 people involved in the corruption spanning 25 years. The only remaining question is who and why?
Who has planned this systematic denial of Arsenal’s success and why have they done it? When we have those answers then we can finally deploy the A-Team to smash this corruption to pieces.
posted on 2/9/24
comment by Szoboss (U6997)
posted 18 hours, 9 minutes ago
So if I’m reading the OP correctly, Arsenal have been victims of corrupt referees for 25 years.
That means that we’re probably talking about circa 80-100 refs, plus support teams, then a couple of years ago they’ve obviously got VAR officials in on the corruption.
The OP also mentioned anti-Arsenal corruption in Europe so that’s probably another 40-50 refs in on the plan from a European perspective.
Then they’ve clearly got journalists involved to ensure the Arsenal perspective isn’t shared in the media.
So we’ve probably got at least 200 people involved in the corruption spanning 25 years. The only remaining question is who and why?
Who has planned this systematic denial of Arsenal’s success and why have they done it? When we have those answers then we can finally deploy the A-Team to smash this corruption to pieces.
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Manchester City
posted on 5/9/24
Odd from gooners. Have a look at the 2017 and 2020 F.A. Cup finals to see a certain team blatantly helped to the trophies by the ref.
All clubs get bad decisions against them, it's the incompetence of the officials that needs addressing.
posted on 10/9/24
Absolute drivel, you speak of debatable calls that for once went our way because they don't mind letting us win an FA cup every now and then to try shut us up.
The Henchoz' handball on the line in the FA Cup final which robbed us of that trophy was an example of an actually blatant one and corruption though.